French Film Exec Insists That Anti-Piracy Efforts Made Sure No French Films Were Downloaded For 7 Months
from the this-is-called-denial dept
We've certainly seen the entertainment industry continually try to pretend that Hadopi's clear failure is a success story. However, sometimes it seems to go from just massaging the numbers into outright denial. That seems to be the case with Nicolas Seydoux, who is both the president of a French film company and the head of the local anti-piracy organization, ALPA.In a recent statement, Seydoux insisted that the "methods developed by ALPA" (going beyond just Hadopi) made sure that not a single French film was downloaded between May 15th and December 15th in 2011:
“Between 15 May and 15 December 2011, no French film has been downloaded from the Internet,”Oddly, he doesn't even seem to distinguish authorized online movie services from unauthorized. He just insists that no films have been downloaded. At first, I thought that perhaps he really meant that no new French films had been leaked online, but that's not what he says. He literally claims that zero French films were downloaded during those seven months. I guess he's declaring victory for his anti-piracy organization, but it's impressive how the pure bubble he's living in does not even come close to reflecting reality.
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So yeah... he is just in denial.
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So yeah... he is just in denial.
He's French so he isn't in De Nile - He's In Seine...
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je ne sais quoi
Maybe he means "no new French movies were made, thus they were also not downloaded" which would make his statement true, we'll have to check. Again though, if you include French video porn movies it's without doubt provably false.
Maybe he means "No new French movies were made (excluding porn) and we could not detect any French resident downloading them, therefore we're an big super awesome success at stopping piracy." I'd believe that, given the new-found popularity of various encrypted proxy services in France...
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It's true
Lets here it for not over-exaggerating!! HOORAY!!!
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http://www.pcinpact.com/news/71129-nicolas-seydoux-gaumont-alpa-hadopi.htm
So, if that quote is indeed accurate, then its not a case of innaccurate translation or anything. He has said that 0 French movies were downloaded in that time frame.
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7 Minutes would be more accurate
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He's Right
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Just Think...
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I despise hollydead movies, too - I don't need to see endless nauseating hours of the same old "car chases and blowing shit up and loud boom" movies.
P.S. - I'm a huge rock and blues music fan and can state beyond a shadow of a doubt that virtually bugger-all French so-called rock and/or blues music has ever been worth jack shit.
Hey Hollande: I'm glad that that fucking dangerous nutcase fascist and gwbush-areshole-licking warmonger Sarcophagus got his ass kicked and is gone for good, but please don't drop the ball he was holding on keeping French "culture" from so-called "pirates". Keep up the good French anti-piracy work. The world need less of that garbage as badly as it needs to get over hollydead.
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One French film I do recommend seeing is Brotherhood of the Wolf. Superb casting, superb acting.
So please, don't diss the entirety of French cinema because of two movies.
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For example: the first 2 Taxi films (ignore the atrocious US remake), both District 13 films, anything directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet (especially Amelie and City Of Lost Children), La Femme Nikita, La Haine, both Mesrine films, The Nest, The Professional (was a French film despite being shot in English and set in the US), The Big Blue, Betty Blue, Jean De Florette, Manon Des Sources ... the list goes on.
If you like extreme cinema, the work of Gaspar Noe (I Stand Alone, Irreversible, Enter The Void) is well worth looking at, as well as the recent run of extreme horror movies often featuring crap that no American film could ever get away with (Frontiere(s), Martyrs, Inside, High Tension, Them/Ils, The Horde, Sheitan).
That's just the stuff that's had releases outside of France, I'm sure there's plenty of other great films that never made an impact outside of France. Yeah, anybody who rejects any country outright for its cinematic contribution is a fool, but especially one who rejects a country with as rich and varied a cinematic landscape as France...
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Perhaps a successful download would manifest as a fully packaged DVD popping out of your monitor.
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We May Have Proof of Something Else Here
I'd say that if Seydoux wasn't absolute proof, he is at least compelling evidence.
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Disclaimer: Not French, nor do I have any French friends that I know of.
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No that is just part of being Canadian. zing!
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Consequently guilt drives a lot of nastiness. :)
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Consequently guilt drives a lot of nastiness. :)
That's a laugh. The American's are the only reason you're not typing this shit in German and your capitol isn't in Vichey. And I'm reminded that I recently saw an ad for surplus French WWII army rifles. It said "never fired, only dropped once".
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American involvement was instrumental to WWII victory...only the most anti-American history revisionist would say otherwise. But Americans didn't single-handedly win it, either.
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And you've heard wrong. (Was this intended as a joke?)
Firstly, because the "average IQ" is, by definition, always 100 and can't be reduced.
Secondly, because intelligence doesn't work that way. If you killed outright all the very intelligent people on the planet, it will not have an appreciable effect on the intelligence of the coming generations.
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It never ceases to amaze me the crap some people say with no sense of shame or even irony.
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What if Nicolas Seydoux confused the words the other way around. Maybe he meant to say that no films had been stolen. That would be kind of believable if the French police had upped their efforts in stopping shoplifting in video stores.
That or he is totally bonkers.
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Seriously????
IF no French films were downloaded during the time-frame he stated, then that means there was very little interest in the world in French films.
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So here's the question then:
A)a French film I downloaded in this time period,
B)What the MPAA would do to me IF I downloaded a film,
or C)What Nicolas Seydoux is trying to do to reality.
Send me your answers attached as a .txt document to torrents of anything starring Gerard Depardieu.
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Sneakernet?
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But let the executive have his victory parade.
I'll just set up an ordering system where someone requests a file, and the file is shipped in encrypted form over postal mail.
Postal mail is more protected against interception than the internet.
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Netflix does have a ton of cool Korean stuff though.
They are full of shit though. Its like saying folks quit breathing air lol....
Nigel
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Great disappointment...
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Also: isn't that a shame that no one is interested enough in French film to bother downloading them? If his statement were honestly true, I should think the French film industry would be more worried than if there were some piracy.
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We decide what's included in our numbers
If that's the case, at least I can't prove him wrong by pointing to a copy of Amelie timestamped september 2011 on my friend's hard drive (who have subsequently harpooned his hard drive, disconnected his internet tubes and moved to a snow cave in Nepal, no need to pursue him).
But it's hard to believe that not a single Frenchman downloaded a single French movie during those months, at least since there were 110 million "incidents", 8 million reports and 800k warnings sent out concerning illegal downloading of foreign movies.
There is only one statistically sane way to explain why the Hadopi numbers show 800k warnings for downloading foreign movies and 0 warnings for downloading French movies: they don't want French movies in their numbers. That way they can say the numbers show excellent progress and pretend the law is working just fine (at least for the French).
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'No French films have been downloaded! There has been no positive word-of-mouth about upcoming French films. No one has discovered a French film for the first time via the internet. No one has watched an otherwise out-of-print French movie through the power of the internet, therefore exposing our cultural heritage to a generation who would not be otherwise able to enjoy it! VICTORY! ...wait.'
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I am a French Film fan and I am not saying that I have ever downloaded a pirated film from torrents or any other infringing method but I am saying that if his claim is that no one downloaded French films illegally during that time frame anywhere in the world I know to a certainty that he is wrong and suspect he is full of crap to boot.
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a)there were no new, well recommended, French films released
b)all French films people wanted, had already been downloaded
c)that there were far more enjoyable films available for download anyway
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