To The NSA, A Reporter Covering Al Qaeda Looks Identical To An Al Qaeda Member
from the we-kill-based-on-metadata dept
On Friday, The Intercept released some new Snowden documents, showing how the NSA used metadata to claim that a well-known and well-respected Al Jazeera journalist, Ahmad Muaffaq Zaidan, was a member of Al Qaeda.The document cites Zaidan as an example to demonstrate the powers of SKYNET, a program that analyzes location and communication data (or “metadata”) from bulk call records in order to detect suspicious patterns.Now, there are a few interesting things that come out of this. First, the NSA has phone metadata on phones in Pakistan. That's found in the other released presentation on the NSA's "SKYNET" (yes, SKYNET) program:
Metadata reveals an awful lot, but there may be alternative explanations for those patterns. But when you get so focused on the data itself, you fall into this trap of believing what the data suggests may be true, because it looks so analytical. The idea that it might be a "false positive" and that there might be an alternative explanation (i.e., a reporter covering Al Qaeda is likely to have similar metadata) doesn't even seem to enter into the equation...
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http://www.propublica.org/article/dissecting-obamas-standard-on-drone-strike-deaths
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Skynet & demonspit, huh?
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Re: Skynet & demonspit, huh?
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Imagine This
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Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMYYx_im5QI
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The algorithm won't be flawed.
Proletariat = enemy of the state
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Oh No Prohibition's coming back!
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Hmmm...
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- Reporter for a news source that does not always sugar coat or kowtow to the spin required by the powers that be here.
- He's brown enough.
If he is daring enough to actually speak with the terrorists, he might dare to report on those things that "we" are doing that we call horrific when the other guy does it. That kind of coverage is seen as a very dangerous weapon, giving people the full picture of what really is happening. The fashionable line used to be "They hate us for our freedom"... now after the reporting on the "collateral damage" (read growing body count of innocent people who dared to just be living their lives, unaware they were in the kill range of a missile fired a world away) that line lost its shine.
If we just add a designator to him in the system, we can just use the flawed system to support the idea he is a terrorist and try to discount what he reports. Sadly not everyone in the public will question the assignment of the designator, and those in the government blindly accept it because to dare to question leads to labels of terrorist lover/sympathizer.
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Makes sense....
I'm willing to bet we could find all sorts of potential false-postives of every kind walking around out there...
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Oh come on
Those stories don't check out. Let's just nuke all of the Near East.
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The program works as intended.
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Reporters on the other hand can be quite the thorn in the side of the government, should they not be good little government mouthpieces, and report what's actually happening and being done, rather than what they are told to report.
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At which time they'll be stricken from the guest list. They've been trying to control reporters since they got away from them in Vietnam.
We had whistleblower laws passed to augment the press. Look where that got Sterling. The gov't is out of control and your elected reps are covering for them.
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Sigh
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The question
Pakistan of course can be offended a bit because they are further away - not in such a strategic place and don't have any oil.
Iran and Iraq were also originally on the list of "do not offend" (in the days of the Shah and early Saddam) but for some inexplicable reason we managed to offend Iran whilst trying not to, then we decided to be offended ourselves by Iraq and now we can't quite work out what to do about either.
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...WTF are you talking about? You might want to take a look at the googles for what happened in Iran around, oh, say, 1979... Maybe use the keyword "Shah"...
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We backed the Shah (trying to keep Iran in our camp) and then found he got toppled and the new regime was offended by our previous support for the Shah.
I was around in 1979 and know perfectly well what happened!
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This's been going on for a long time. There's whole continents on the list. The Europeans excelled at colonialism, but the US's out to perfect it. They've the imperial disease, and are just like Rome and many other countries' empires.
Watching US whine about Putin these days is comical.
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Al-Jazeera, Al-Qaeda, Tomayto, Tomahto
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In case you're serious (hard to tell these days):
Xenophobic idiots have conflated the Arabic language with terrorism, in the same way they assume that anyone looking Middle Eastern is a terrorist and that all Muslims are terrorists.
Intelligent people not only understand that "al" is essentially the Arabic version of "the" - rendering any automatic negative connotation laughable - but that it's the root of a lot of common English words such as alcohol, algebra and alchemy (among hundreds of English words with origins in the Arabic language).
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Well, alcohol was banned at some time, alchemy certainly is, and if you take a look at the average U.S. education, algebra certainly looks like being on a death list as well.
Not least of all, we avoided Algore by not being able to count. Certainly looks like we are on our way to get rid of all those Arabic Als. Now we just need to give Alobama back to the French and Alaska to the Russians. But only including Sarah P-al-in.
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The question that should be asked is who is defining who the bad people are. Much like the film, evil groups would decide anyone that could be a threat to their illegal actions could be designated a future target.
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So with metadata. . .
CIA and FBI agents would appear to be anti-government activists.
This could get confusing, just kill em all! They should know better then to doing something that make's them look like criminals, so it's there own fault!
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Well they do things that go against the law using secret rules, courts, and workarounds... it might be more than appears.
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I strongly suspect that's what SKYNET is for.
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