As US Turns Away From Idea Of Backdooring Crypto, David Cameron Has A Problem
from the saber-rattling dept
Last week, Mike wrote about what seems an important shift in US government policy on encryption, as the White House finally recognizes that adding backdoors isn't a sensible option. That leaves a big question mark over what the UK will do, since David Cameron and intelligence officials have been hinting repeatedly that they wanted to undermine encryption in some unspecified way. Just last week, the new head of MI5, the UK's domestic intelligence service, gave the first-ever live media interview by a senior British intelligence official. Asked about the alleged danger of parts of the Internet "going dark", he said:
"It requires the cooperation of the companies who run and provide services over the internet that we all use. It is in no one's interest that terrorists would be able to plot and communicate out of the reach of any authorities with the proper legal power."
That's from The Guardian, and another article there points out that the UK government's strategy of trying to get the big US online services to co-operate now looks in trouble:
If the White House does drop the battle [over backdoors] it will leave Britain with little option but to accept the widespread use of encryption. The UK's ability to directly lobby the big American technology firms is limited, and in a report leaked in June the former British diplomat Sir Nigel Sheinwald said that a new international treaty was the only way to get the co-operation of the companies. Without the support of the White House such a treaty seems unlikely.
Of course, a lot depends on the detailed policy adopted by the US government, and whether the US intelligence community manages to exploit any future terrorist attacks to get backdoors on the agenda again. But for the moment, it seems that David Cameron's anti-encryption saber-rattling will remain just that.
Without the co-operation of the tech firms what the UK government can do when facing widespread encryption is limited. In June the Home Office confirmed that, for extreme cases, it was considering inserting "black box" probes into the transatlantic cables, to collect data leaving and entering the UK. But if the communications were encrypted on their way to the US, such collection would have little value.
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Yes. He let slip that he starred in Black Mirror.
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1) The axe that Lord Ashcroft has to grind
2) The axe that the Daily Mail constantly grinds
3) The very nature and nuance of hazing, especially as it relates to the sort of group that is going to place you in the sphere of the elite.
"The cost of entry, paid by all members of the group, is participation in humiliating acts; acts which will forever wed them to the group, because should they later act in a way contrary to the group’s interests or desires, their “indiscretions” can be brought back to destroy their careers or personal lives."
http://www.robfahey.co.uk/blog/the-pm-the-pig-and-musings-on-power/
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A server anywhere in the world IS subject to US Law.
As long as the server:
Uses software developed by an American company.
Uses hardware developed by an American company.
Stores anything created by an American person.
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"David Cameron Has A Problem"
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People can't see why banks, etc. would want to "encrypt" their communications, but they can certainly appreciate why such communications must be "secure"...
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Well, what is that? Secure like OPM? Secure like Sony? Secure like Target? The latter had just passed a PCI compliance test, which meant exactly nothing it appears (see Krebs on Security). The other two were just twiddling their thumbs hoping not to be noticed by attackers before those in charge moved onto greener pastures (I assume). Yeah, that'll work. Hah.
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And by terrorists he means......
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Perhaps his problem is that he has been spinning a tale to keep people distracted, and now the dominoes have stopped falling to give them cover to expand the all seeing eye.
The little boys who have been crying wolf, finally are getting the other villagers fed up with the lies. They expand and expand and none of the good they promise comes to pass, we just need more let us have more or all of the bad will get you. You can't have secrets from us, secrets are bad... look how all of the secrets we're keeping have screwed us time and time again. They want because the sycophants tell them this is the correct course, and no one questions how much lines the sycophants pockets vs any benefit.
The worry we need to have is more things being spun as terrorist actions, to keep everyone on edge and willing to surrender everything to be safe. And while we'd like to think them above such things, petty dictators aren't above allowing tragedies to happen to get more mileage out of the worn out tropes. As both governments are actively doing things we see dictatorships do in the name of freedom, perhaps we need to pull them back from the abyss and say no more.
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These random "snippets" in our media, Is it a coincedence, a result of their environment, or subtle indoctrination...........or a system designed or nurtured to have indoctrination a "natural" part of its system, one thats indoctored to be accepted, and indoctored to be frowned upon
We are no more, no less then animals, we all start with a blank slate, how we think, what we think is a product of our environments......we may have original thought, but alot of it is stimulated by what we see and what we hear and probably other things to......this is dangerous in the hands of a "represented" populace ignorant to that fact
educationated, its the best /ironic sarcasm (not sure if used correctly)
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Are you okay with me, an ordinary unspecial US Citizen, having the keys to your country's encryption? If so, please carry on.
Sincerely,
Once-it's-out-it's-out
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The United Kingdom of Imperialist Ideals
Interchangeable faces and many, many more
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Cameron: "We're going dork!"
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What's the treaty of the time? TPP? Wait a minute while I add a paragraph in some unsuspecting section....
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That's the problem. The key to unlocking the encryption - that key will be pure gold. I sense a whole series of spy thrillers about this central theme in the future. Whichever person(s) know the information will be a burn-level threat to national security of every nation...
and once the key is out - what are the odds that all computer systems will be re-keyed (is that possible?) within a short interval? Plus, all the previously-recorded transmissions will be free for browsing. DOn't you think China and Russia are doing something similar to the NSAA (just not the same scope).
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The rest of us, however, will continue to use the internet for pretty much everything. Some of us may be able to keep our personal communications private, but it doesn't matter all that much when our banks, doctors, and lawyers can't.
Pardon the cliché, but:
This only makes sense if catching terrorists isn't actually the main purpose of mass surveillance.
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This is simply an attempt to make what they are already illegally doing, legal.
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as for Cameron and his cronies, a short while ago, the Tory party were up in arms about a Labour idea of having every citizen issued with an I.D. card and all citizens on a massive, fool proof database. now the Tory government wants to not only do what it voted against a few short years ago, but wants to make China's treatment of citizens seem tame in comparison by being able to listen to every conversation, read every mail (on line or in the flesh), plot every phone call and IM and see every web site visited. if that is living up to what the UK has always been stalwart over, a world leader doing and what so many other countries wanted, i would hate to be part of what isn't!!
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Guess what when people like their privacy and anonymity.
So the public is doing what they do with their own kids namely any "toy" that is abused and misused is taken away to teach respect for property.
The Internet goes dark but these Governments also like little kids only scream and cry about how they want their spy shit back. Too bad when all the time they rant on with how what they are doing is "lawful" and how they ram through their arrogance they win little public respect.
The tools they were granted were for terrorism and nothing else, where once Governments accept that fact and operate their spy systems that way, then they can start to win some trust back.
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As the citizens terrify governments because they can vote them out of office, they are terrorists and so must be spied on.
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"no one's interest"
So why would we capitulate?
If we are a captured people in an occupied territory, is it not our duty to cause mischief whenever we can?
This is even before we're concerned about maintaining a modicum of human rights for ourselves.
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They're like a bunch of fucking children, throwing their toys whenever they don't get their way.
It's pathetic.
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The gist I get from his statement is that if you are not for your government 100% you are a terrorist to them plotting to disrupt their fascist plans
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PigGate
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