is it right to mock the criminally insane erdogan ! ;o)
"JULY 7, 2015 Mr. Erdoğan claimed that Muslim explorers reached the Moon more than 300 years before the beginning of the Appolo program, vowing to build a mosque “in the crater” where they landed.
“It is alleged that the first man to walk on the moon was Neil Armstrong in 1969,” Erdoğan said. “In fact, Muslim space explorers reached our satellite 334 years before that, in 1635."
For those who think it so idiotic to hold platforms of search engines liable for other peoples' speech: those same companies also argue that third-party speech is their (the company's) speech, at least when the government comes in to regulate them.
section 230 is premised on the idea that it isn't their speech; First Amendment arguments are premised on the fact that it is.
Rand Paul voted to stop Cloture, and tried to amend the bill, which was the most important vote. Without enough votes to stop cloture, or amend the bill, the bill was positioned to go through regardless of his presence. He was unable to prepare for the debate in CO and vote on the final bill at the same time. Even if he had been there, the bill didn't allow filibustering after that vote. See his cloture roll-call here: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&s ession=1&vote=00281
"Public Servant" is a euphemism..they are Government Servants..Cops exist to protect the State(Government), Enforce it's Laws and maintain General Order(If that order is arresting African-Americans for violating Jim Crow..they will do it). So lets get that straight..Cops exist to Serve and Protect the Government..Courts have already ruled that Cops have no duty to protect individuals. So when you ask the question about a person who works for a private business feel about a customer(or non-customer) going to a business on private property to record and heckle isn't the same as a Government Servant being heckled/recorded in on a Public Street/Public Area..don't forget Cops aren't the employees of Citizens..we aren't their customers..so they have no duty to treat us with respect the way a real business would that trying to attract customers.
Wouldn't having a jury of peers, fellow citizens, fix the problem.. real people presented with this ridiculous evidence would be able to come up with more sensible verdicts. The drawback of course would be in that forming a jury is time-consuming and probably costs extra money. Perhaps technology could be used for jury members to telecommute their presence at the court while being at home.
Wow. I find your statement very offensive and I have reported you to the proper authorities. You shall be severely punished for offensive thought and speech.
No day goes by, or one reads a newspaper article which cites an anonymous government official. "A source close to the minister said..." We have to give up anonymity when reading a newspaper article, while they get quoted "speaking under condition of anonymity"?
The Royal Institute of International Affairs, St. James's Square, London, also known as Chatham House, even has an anonimity rule.
At a meeting held under the Chatham House Rule, anyone who comes to the meeting is free to use information from the discussion, but is not allowed ever to reveal the identity, employer or political party of the person making a comment. It is designed to increase openness of discussion of public policy and current affairs, as it allows people to express and discuss controversial opinions and arguments without suffering the risk of dismissal from their job, and with a clear separation from the opinion and the view of their employer.
If Her Majesty's Government wants to abolish anonymity online, shouldn't it begin by abolishing anonymity within its own walls?
Naaa, they'll just sign a "Forget about me Google" form and the bad reviews will magically go away. It'll be easy for them to sell to the next customer since there are no bad comments -- EVER.
OMG: Why the EU courts didn't leave google alone and go after the actual source site? THEN if google doesn't update its index in a reasonable time (months, not seconds), THEN you go after google.
It's just like fortune tellers and members of government: count or inflate the number of times you're right but completely ignore and discount the number times you're wrong. ("Oh, I misspoke; I mean you just didn't hear me correctly to start with. You should be more accurate with your reporting.")
'4. The "rules" of the Turing test always seem to change. Hell, Turing's original test was quite different anyway.'
The link to the original test contains a link at the bottom to a 1996 criticism of the test: 'Jason Hutchens... has written an excellent article on what's wrong with it, and with the Turing test in general. Essentially, Hutchens is making the case that the Turing Test is a poor test of intelligence, that it encourages trickery, not intelligent behaviour, and that many intelligent systems would fail this test.'
If any of the national security agencies in this country have bona fide intelligence on terrorist threats in this country, and believe me there are plenty, (http://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/government-refuses-to-deport-syrian-terrorist-facilitator-wi th-ties-to-911-attacks/) then by all means, I want them to use every resource they have to get so far up their ass, they�ll feel like they�re getting a colonoscopy.
There needs to be strict, common sense oversight based on verified indications and warnings. The problem is, any power created for clandestine use can be abused.
The erosion of America�s civil and personal liberties has taken on evil proportions. Obama�s abuse of power in particular, is unprecedented.
It�s not just the government, private omnipresent companies like Google are doing the same thing. They collaborate with government agencies in exchange for political favors.
The line between security and liberty has been crossed. It�s up to the citizens of America to kick their asses back over that line.
mocking the criminally insane erdogan !
is it right to mock the criminally insane erdogan ! ;o)
"JULY 7, 2015
Mr. Erdoğan claimed that Muslim explorers reached the Moon more than 300 years before the beginning of the Appolo program, vowing to build a mosque “in the crater” where they landed.
“It is alleged that the first man to walk on the moon was Neil Armstrong in 1969,” Erdoğan said. “In fact, Muslim space explorers reached our satellite 334 years before that, in 1635."
Maybe they're channeling Rowan
From "Famous Last Words" Dept.
-- Bob Iger, CEO Walt Disney Company
Who wants to lose his job?
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section 230 is premised on the idea that it isn't their speech; First Amendment arguments are premised on the fact that it is.
http://www.dmlp.org/blog/2014/baidus-political-censorship-protected-first-amendment-raises-broader-i ssues
Re: Rand Paul
See his cloture roll-call here:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&s ession=1&vote=00281
Re: Can't have it both ways...
Government
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You seem to fail to grasp the concept of the Turing Test. If something passes the test, it is intelligent, by definition.
>The whole concept of the Turing Test itself is kind of a >joke.
Yeah I'm sure you're much smarter than Turing, so your opinion is important. What about Einstein? Are his theories bunk because you say so?
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Article above should be amended to correct this. What they've done is indefensible, but get the facts right.
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Re: Wow
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My sig for 15 years.
Anonymity in HMG
We have to give up anonymity when reading a newspaper article, while they get quoted "speaking under condition of anonymity"?
The Royal Institute of International Affairs, St. James's Square, London, also known as Chatham House, even has an anonimity rule.
At a meeting held under the Chatham House Rule, anyone who comes to the meeting is free to use information from the discussion, but is not allowed ever to reveal the identity, employer or political party of the person making a comment. It is designed to increase openness of discussion of public policy and current affairs, as it allows people to express and discuss controversial opinions and arguments without suffering the risk of dismissal from their job, and with a clear separation from the opinion and the view of their employer.
If Her Majesty's Government wants to abolish anonymity online, shouldn't it begin by abolishing anonymity within its own walls?
Search for KlearGear reviews? Why do that?
OMG: Why the EU courts didn't leave google alone and go after the actual source site? THEN if google doesn't update its index in a reasonable time (months, not seconds), THEN you go after google.
It's just like fortune tellers and members of government: count or inflate the number of times you're right but completely ignore and discount the number times you're wrong. ("Oh, I misspoke; I mean you just didn't hear me correctly to start with. You should be more accurate with your reporting.")
Online article critique of the Turing Test
http://view.samurajdata.se/psview.php?id=d758abba&page=1&size=full&all=1
It was found this way:
'4. The "rules" of the Turing test always seem to change. Hell, Turing's original test was quite different anyway.'
The link to the original test contains a link at the bottom to a 1996 criticism of the test:
'Jason Hutchens... has written an excellent article on what's wrong with it, and with the Turing test in general. Essentially, Hutchens is making the case that the Turing Test is a poor test of intelligence, that it encourages trickery, not intelligent behaviour, and that many intelligent systems would fail this test.'
The link gives a 404, then through the Internet Archive you find it's available from 2003 as a postscript file, which when using an online converter can be seen here:
http://view.samurajdata.se/psview.php?id=d758abba&page=1&size=full&all=1
Re: I'm going to ask a stupid question...AGAIN.
Just like James Clapper, except that he's a more visible higher up in the system?
HAAAAA HAAA HA Ha ha. _You're_ funny. I would like to subscribe to your fantasy newsletter where laws are actually enforced.
(techdirt.com/articles/20130701/12494623683/james-clapper-admits-he-lied-to-congress-even-h is-excuse-is-misleading.shtml)
Wow. Just Wow.
There needs to be strict, common sense oversight based on verified indications and warnings. The problem is, any power created for clandestine use can be abused.
The erosion of America�s civil and personal liberties has taken on evil proportions. Obama�s abuse of power in particular, is unprecedented.
It�s not just the government, private omnipresent companies like Google are doing the same thing. They collaborate with government agencies in exchange for political favors.
The line between security and liberty has been crossed. It�s up to the citizens of America to kick their asses back over that line.
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