Hanging Out For Free Is Piracy
from the free-is-bad dept
Joe Betsill alerts us to an an amusing comic from theWAREHOUSE that seems fitting around here:Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Do You Need an Invoice?
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It sucks.
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The irony is strong with this one......
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Funny, does anyone remember paying anything?
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Because that's what I see.
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I ask myself why musicians have to pay other musicians, if someone does a cover he is investing in that music, he is taking somebody else expressions and making his own, working with it and he has to pay the first one?
Why?
Can restaurants charge other restaurants for using their recipes? can Rolland charge musicians for making music with their content? every musician should pay the manufacturers of sound equipment shouldn't they?
Musicians can't possibly expect to use somebody else work to make a profit and don't pay anything for what people have done before right?
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The simple answer is that without the original work, the secondary work does not exist. It would be a remake of silence, which is what we get all the time for free.
The rest of your recipe and sound equipment rants only goes to show how hard you are working to obscure the obvious.
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Now, why should you get things for free without paying the people who enable you?
According to yourself without work done before there would never be future work is that not right?
So can there be musicians without instruments? Rolland, Yamaha should collect money from the use of their property no?
Why manufacturers of musical instruments that enable musicians everywhere to play for large crowds not paid by their work?is their property lesser in importance somehow to the creation of imaginary property?
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"All art is derivative. There is no form of art that is totally original... 'originality' is a modern art construct... a silly concession to marketing concerns." - Paul deMarrais
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The same can be said about your little rant about how artists create something and need to be paid, everybody needs to be paid for their work, not extort others that do the work or the same work, I don't see carpenters suing each other for doing the exact same things do you?
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Shelter is more valuable to me than "Give Me Shelter" is.
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Unauthorised silence?
Actually, it would be an unauthorised version of 4'33".
John Cage doesn't get nearly enough in royalties for that piece!
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The real thieves are artists that don't do the work anymore and keep asking the people who do to pay them.
Why should any musician lose his job at a bar because the owner was threatened by a collection agency?
Why should anybody who works in front of a crowd for 8 or more hours a day have to pay anything to some dude he wouldn't even be allowed to get close to it?
Copyright parasites don't work they extort money from those who do and threaten their own fans.
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Come up with something better.
...funny, I don't see anything...
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Did I still create nothing?
I needs me more protection for my art!!!11eleven
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Alas, some people see only what they want to see.
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He did create something, he talked. Unless you're arguing against audio not being copyrightable, but then music couldn't be copyrighted.
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Afterall performances by their very nature are not fixed. They may be performing something which they have a fixed version of, but the live version will have differences - plus in videoing you are adding creative decisions about framing the shots etc.
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An interesting question. On the face of it, it seems the answer is "yes".
However, every concert/play/movie ticket I've ever seen has terms attached to it that forbid recording. It may not be a copyright violation, but it would be breach of contract.
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While this is a highly improbable situation, it is nevertheless a possibility that does make this an interesting question as you note.
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I fear your sense of humor needs recalibration.
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Is promoting a narrow interpretation of "tangible medium of expression" and of "authorship" that excludes the observer's brain your way of saying that you don't value the work, creativity, spontaneity, privacy sharing, and inspiration that results from hanging out with someone else? Do you really want to go on record as saying you don't value the creator's expression and impression on his/her audience's mind and the work required on his/her part?
What if the audience then goes on to create a work that derives ideas and expressions arrived at with the help of that valuable hanging out moment? What if the observer records the moment and makes lots of money afterward? Are you saying that you think the original creator is not entitled to a cut of the profits or injunctive relief?
What kind of anon ac troll are you!
It's because of fake trolls like yourself that in this day and age we still have many slaves performing and creating purely and exclusively for the sake of others without receiving a dime in compensation.
It's as if you don't value people's time or think creativity falls from a tree.
Hanging-outers have been exploited for far too long, and if our Congress depends on the opinion of people like yourself, it will be years still before this injustice has been corrected.
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http://mimiandeunice.com/2011/11/08/careful-i/
...then you suffer.
http://mimiandeunice.com/2011/11/09/careful-ii/
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"I want my twooo dolllarsss..."
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derp
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You don't think you should be able to come here and post for free do you? It costs money to run a site. I know it isn't being run by Gene Simmons or Angelina Jolie, but it still costs money.
Don't be a jerk just because you don't like the content. If the price is too high, don't use that to justify your actions.
Just quit coming here.
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Source: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-apple-legal-war-android.html
Even science dedicated blogs are noticing.
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Real content providers actually put a price at the door
Sigh. The irony is that the web comic author is actually trying to monetize what is given for free-- but with a legit form of business. There are t-shirts, coffee mugs and over five pages of stuff all available for a price.
I wish the author well because it's tough to run a business. I just wish the author had some sympathy for the other creators who are trying to do the same.
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No one is saying that creators shouldn't get paid. You either don't understand the arguments being made here, or you are being deliberately obtuse to further some agenda of yours.
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Well dumbass welcome to the radio era or the television era you are just late to the game just about a 100 years or so but you will catch up I'm sure.
Now please can you point me to the nearest website of a musician so I can rip his music from his own website and have him closed for inducing piracy.
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http://www.trueguitarist.com/guitar-t-shirt-that-plays-like-a-guitar/
http://www.thinkgeek.co m/tshirts-apparel/interactive/a5bf/
"A shirt with a built-in sound effects player"
Or use fabric displays LoL
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/high-tech-gadgets/fabric-display6.htm
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anal leakage
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