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Fri, Jan 18th 2013 11:37am — Mike Masnick
We've been talking a lot today about Internet Freedom Day, and the anniversary of the SOPA/PIPA blackout. The folks at Fight for the Future noticed the proximity of Internet Freedom Day to Martin Luther King Jr. Day, and decided an interesting form of celebrating internet freedom would be to share a video of MLK's famous "I have a dream..." speech. As you may or may not know, Martin Luther King Jr.'s heirs have been ridiculously aggressive in claiming copyright over every aspect of anything related to MLK -- and they seek large sums of money from people for doing things like quoting him. When the MLK Memorial was recently built in Washington DC, the family was able to get nearly $800,000 just to use his words and likeness.

The FftF video was not just the MLK video, but contained some additional explanation of how expanding copyright laws could impact people for doing something as simple as sharing the MLK video -- and then it included some of the speech. So I guess it should come as little surprise that the "I have a dream..." video that FftF was urging people to share has already been taken down (it's unclear if the takedown was due to a notice or Vimeo being proactive).
It seems fairly ridiculous that on Internet Freedom Day, and just before MLK Day, we're still dealing with takedowns on such powerful words.
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  • identicon
    Travis, 18 Jan 2013 @ 11:42am

    I effing hate copyright

    That's beyond ridiculous, that speech is a part of history. Ugh.. There is no depth to my hatred for copyright.

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      ChurchHatesTucker (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:04pm

      Re: I effing hate copyright

      All speech is a part of history. That's what's at stake.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

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      art guerrilla (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:57pm

      Re: I effing hate copyright

      love MLK, do NOT like his greedy, grasping family...
      THEY are diluting, destroying, and disappearing HIS legacy made by HIM for THEIR personal greed...
      no better than the MAFIAA, as far as i'm concerned; in fact, worse, i expect better of them than i do of the MAFIAA...

      art guerrilla
      aka ann archy
      eof

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Zakida Paul (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 11:45am

    I have a dream

    That one day we will live in a world where copyright and patents will work in the favour of everyone (public/creators/companies etc).

    Probably not in my lifetime though, and I'm only 30 :-(

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Mr. Smarta** (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 11:49am

    MLK? So what??

    Upon reading this, I realized that I never actually heard the entire MLK speech in my life. All the years through school, I'd only heard the name and the "I have a dream" phrase. Just tried to look it up to listen to it for the first time and received the copyrighted notice. Apparently, the day isn't important enough for people to hear the speech. Martin Luther King is apparently, and the day, not as important as copyrights.

    And since we have our fill of copyrights in the world, I guess it's safe to say that Martin Luther King Day just isn't that important. So who cares? Not important to me, then I don't have to give a damn.

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  • identicon
    Michael, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:01pm

    Annoying

    These things are so annoying. When heirs of historical figures do things like this, I think we should just erase them from history and attribute everything good that they did to someone else.

    So, Monday, I am celebrating Whoopi Goldberg Day. I hope you will all join me.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      jupiterkansas (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:38pm

      Re: Annoying

      How about Paul Robeson instead?

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

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      ltlw0lf (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 1:10pm

      Re: Annoying

      So, Monday, I am celebrating Whoopi Goldberg Day. I hope you will all join me.

      I'm celebrating Martin Luther King, Jr day, but I prefer to dwell on the fact that if it wasn't for him, Nichelle Nichols wouldn't be the person she was. Look up the Star Talk podcast with Nichelle Nichols, and listen to her talk about her experience with MLK. Star Trek would have been an entirely different experience if she wasn't there, just as it would have been if George Takei wasn't there. I can't do justice to her story...

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:02pm

    Forget history asap, eh?

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    anonymouse, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:02pm

    SAD!!!!

    I think MLK would have been disgusted and disowned his family for this, those thieving greedy no good..........ok i will stop there.

    No i won't, this is history, imagine if the history books could not be written because every person or entity in any history book sought financial gain from discussing their great great grandparents history, sickening and so so sad.

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    • identicon
      anonymouse, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:05pm

      Re: SAD!!!!

      Actually i think we should cancel MLK day, no more, and if anyone brings it up just say it is internet freedom day and the MLK family does not believe in freedom, as he did.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

      • icon
        Nigel (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:59pm

        Re: Re: SAD!!!!

        Sadly indeed that you actually make a point there.

        I likened the Aaron Swartz situation the other day to losing the MLK of the web.

        Question: what is after irony? because I think we have exceeded it here.

        Nigel

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:03pm

    Copyright is being used to destroy a man's legacy. If his words can't be heeard they will fade from memory.

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  • identicon
    dr evil, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:03pm

    I'm disgusted too

    that the heirs asked for and/or received payment for a freakin memorial. jeeze. copyright to this comment can be obtained via my attorneys.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:06pm

    I think I am going to Youtube and find some moonshine video tutorials now.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:11pm

    In all the fairness... if you search youtube for "I have a dream speech", you'll find plenty. The top one is uploaded a year ago and has 1.7M views. Why was not it taken down (among a dozen others)?

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:14pm

    If it was a public speech, given in public, to the public, how can it not be public domain?

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      maclypse (profile), 19 Jan 2013 @ 3:42pm

      Re:

      I was thinking the same thing, but then I realised: we are not thinking like the maffia: "If Martin Luther King speaking to the public is automatically public domain, how can we argue that music or anything else performed at a public event isn't?"

      Anyone that argues that King's speech should be in the public domain, will have to face off against the every copyright group in the US who will desperately defend their ability to protect their own copyrighted material. We already know they will fight tooth and nail to avoid ANY exception to copyright, even at the expense of the deaf. I very much doubt they will act any different to this "exception".

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    nice, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:16pm

    As you may or may not know, Martin Luther King Jr.'s heirs have been ridiculously aggressive in claiming copyright over every aspect of anything related to MLK -- and they seek large sums of money from people for doing things like quoting him. When the MLK Memorial was recently built in Washington DC, the family was able to get nearly $800,000 just to use his words and likeness.


    im sure there father would be proud of what there doing...

    but hey im just a white devil what would i know?

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      PlagueSD (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:32pm


      im sure there father would be proud of what there doing...


      There, their, and they're. Three different words. You used the wrong one...twice.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    kenichi tanaka, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:18pm

    This is fucking ridiculous. (sorry for the expletive, see my following comment).

    I guess someone should tell Dr. Martin Luthor King that his "Dream is Dead"!

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:19pm

    Deeper and deeper... They really need to stop giving out those 'Get Out of Rule of Law Free' cards. Carte Blanche and coke just don't mix.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Zos (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:21pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEqnnklfYs

    managed to find a copy on youtube with over a million views that somehow hasn't been dmca'd.

    original, not the internet freedom version, but still i was surprised to find it.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      Goyo (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 1:05pm

      Re:

      "Este vídeo incluye contenido de Screen Media Ventures, LLC, CD Baby, Diwan Videos y de IODA, y uno o varios de estos usuarios lo han bloqueado en tu país por motivos de derechos de copyright."

      Quick and dirty translation: "This video includes content from Screen Media Ventures, LLC, CD Baby, IODA and Diwan Videos, and one or more of these users have blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

      So don't worry, somebody is taking care of the copyright.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      Ophelia Millais (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 2:38pm

      Re:

      I can see the video, but it has been monetized by providing Buy links for a rap track by Flex. But then it says the artist is Moodswings, and gives the writing credits for "Spiritual High Part III".

      Both Flex and Moodswings merely sampled parts of the speech in their songs. They, their record companies, non-MLK co-writers, and publishers are not entitled to a dime from plays of this video. Yet they probably are getting paid, or have the option to be. I would like to see the King estate sue all of them.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:38pm

    I have always considered MLK day in the same way I view Kwanza.

    A holiday for some, but not really all of us..

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      weneedhelp - not signed in, 18 Jan 2013 @ 5:39pm

      Re:

      A holiday for some, but not really all of us..

      "The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom."

      "one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers. I have a dream today!"

      See he was a visionary that wanted equality for all. He wanted all races and creeds to be united as brothers and sisters to live in harmony.

      So no, you are incorrect, it is for everyone.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 8:09pm

      Re:

      It's a holiday for government employees, who get the privilege of a paid day off at taxpayers' expense.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Baron von Robber, 18 Jan 2013 @ 10:57pm

        Re: Re:

        You'd rather make them work at 1.5x pay?!? People with your fiscal incompetence add no the need to raise the debt ceiling.

        [ link to this | view in chronology ]

        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 19 Jan 2013 @ 9:50am

          Re: Re: Re:

          "People with your fiscal incompetence add no the need to raise the debt ceiling". Sorry, I can't make heads or tails of that sentence.

          [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    kenichi tanaka, 18 Jan 2013 @ 12:48pm

    It's nice to see black people issuing DMCA takedowns of civil rights speeches made by black people. I don't know what you call this when black people are censoring themselves.

    Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" speech should be in the public domain because it should be a speech that everyone should be able to watch and hear. Inistead, his family wants to censor their father's own speech. WOW! Racism in Reverse.

    Wouldn't their father be proud of them.

    The Dream is dead!

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 2:06pm

      Re:

      I would call it copyright nazism.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      That One Guy (profile), 19 Jan 2013 @ 11:58am

      Re:

      (Apologies for the blunt language)

      No no, racism would be if they were locking it up based upon the race of speaker, whereas locking it up due to thinking money is more important than history is just being a douche.

      Remember, while every racist is a douche, not every douche is a racist.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    streetlight (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 1:04pm

    Don't others have this speech?

    I'm wondering if some other outlet doesn't have this speech. I mean, CBS TV/Radio, NBC, ABC, NPR, PBS, BBC should have this and may own a copyright on their broadcast of it. One of them could put their video and/or audio in the public domain and thus not require royalty payments. Oh, wait ... These guys want to make a profit, so maybe this is ridiculous.

    Also the speech was given at the Lincoln Memorial in DC, so does the Federal Government have some first dibs.

    One way to solve the problem, as implied in some of the posts here, is that there never again be any presentation of Dr. King's writings, speeches, images, etc., anywhere. Of course, this would bury him from any future reference anywhere and prevent any royalties paid to the family. Sad.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 1:47pm

      Re: Don't others have this speech?

      Copyright law actually requires a copy be provided free of charge to the Library of Congress.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

      • icon
        streetlight (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 3:09pm

        Re: Re: Don't others have this speech?

        I don't think that's true. One can attach a copyright notice in the proper format which includes the circled C, date and the name of who owns the copyright. By sending a copy to the Copyright and Trademark office one has stronger evidence of holding the copyright. Whether your material ends up in the Library of Congress is another matter.

        [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    CK20XX, 18 Jan 2013 @ 1:09pm

    The sad thing is that this video is probably floating around The Pirate Bay right now, meaning it's probably gonna end up mirrored all over the internet before too long. For being enemies of the world, internet pirates sure do suck at that job.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    trish, 18 Jan 2013 @ 1:13pm

    theft

    MLK was a child of humanity - we haveallowed our own culture to be stolen from us, as this great figure for all people is off limits. Disgusting but we did it to ourselves (and by that I mean, the rich did it to us, as usual.)

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Martin Luther King Jr., 18 Jan 2013 @ 1:14pm

    Hi

    Hi everyone,
    I'm dead, and I'm turning in my grave over those nappy headed relatives of mine who are still living off my coattails almost 50 years later. I'm sick they have monetized my speech as I meant for everyone to share freely in it. Don't make me get out of this here grave and go ghetto on your mofos.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    Jonas (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 1:27pm

    EMI Publishing are the actual owners

    I'm not surprised at all!

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 1:45pm

    I have a dream, but it was forgotten due to copyright laws.

    ftfy Dr. King.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 2:02pm

    MLK would be so proud of what is happening in his name! well done to his family for making his 'dream' a non-reality!

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 2:05pm

    His greedy relatives are going to make sure that MLK will be forgotten.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    crade (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 2:15pm

    I didn't even know you could copyright public speeches. Thats kinda hilarious. Copyright is a joke, but at least it makes me laught sometimes.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    333sturm, 18 Jan 2013 @ 3:04pm

    Especially ironic since MLK "borrowed" liberally from a speech given some years earlier by another reverend. I believe the prior speech was given at some republican convention and MLK used a good portion of it in the "I have a dream" speech.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 3:44pm

    I have a dream

    I have a dream that when I die, my heirs will become rich.
    I have a dream that my heirs will be lazy sitting on their asses charging people to hear these words.
    I have a dream that only those rich enough to pay my heirs will be inspired from my great words.

    Only when my heirs are filthy rich will we be free at last.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 3:46pm

    Paid at last!

    Paid at last! Paid at last! Thank God Almighty, we are paid at last!

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    Gary Bender (profile), 18 Jan 2013 @ 3:53pm

    Google it

    I found it in a few seconds. I'm not a troll. I hate copyright. But what is wrong with you?

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2013 @ 4:33pm

      Re: Google it

      it was taken down, sure you can find other 'illegally' uploaded files, but thats missing the point.

      [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Evan, 19 Jan 2013 @ 6:32am

    MLK #InternetFreedomDay video is back online!

    We got it back up, this time on YouTube. Keep sharing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIshI_qxxew&feature=youtu.be

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 19 Jan 2013 @ 7:43am

    Lazy heirs

    I have a dream, that one day my offspring will live in luxury off my toil and dreams, rather than contribute anything to society.

    I have a dream, that they will do so at the cost of my dream.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    That One Guy (profile), 19 Jan 2013 @ 12:24pm

    The preservation of culture

    Incidents like these just further solidify my belief that unless something drastic changes(like the complete collapse or re-writing of copyright law), the only way current and future culture will survive beyond the generation it appears in will be due to lawbreakers and pirates.

    If the preservation of culture was left just to the creators and owners, so very much would be lost, as for far too many as soon as the item in question stops being profitable they cease to care about preserving it for the future, though they never stop trying to kill off any unauthorized versions.

    Even today, there are a good number of books, games and videos that only still exist because someone broke the law and created a backup, or a copy of the original, though unfortunately far too much is still being lost as it's locked up beyond the point of recovery, or far past the point where it has any relevance at all.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    Ninja (profile), 21 Jan 2013 @ 2:07am

    That's plain disgusting. Regardless of being MLK Estate or some automated bullshit filter it all boils down to the fact that copyright is not promoting progress or doing whatever it was intended in the first place. Instead it's doing THIS. Locking up part of our goddamn history.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    anon, 21 Jan 2013 @ 10:42pm

    I decided to listen to the speech because I'd never done so before. Imagine my surprise when I heard MLK say:

    "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Jan 2013 @ 7:23am

    cool

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Jan 2013 @ 7:23am

    cool

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Abigail, 8 Apr 2013 @ 1:08pm

    This is already on youtube

    I have found so many sites saying this was taken down/copyrighted. I am confused, it's on youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEqnnklfYs&list=PLB3074A4B8F2B63DA&index=24

    I 've watched it several times over the last couple years including in school. This whole debate is confusing to me.

    You can watch many of his other speeches at this youtube playlist:

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB3074A4B8F2B63DA

    Hope that works.

    [ link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    mlkday, 15 Jan 2015 @ 10:12am

    More on Martin Luther King

    Really its a great post about the greatest speech in the history. This speech inspires every time someone her or read them.
    I found some more source to read about Martin Luther King
    Martin Luther King Day 2015 speech
    Martin Luther King Day 2015 quotes
    Martin Luther King Day 2015 pictures
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