Everyone Go Crazy: Prepare To Blame The Internet For Murder-Inducing Ghost Stories
from the on-the-internet dept
I'm calling it here, right now. With all we've seen in the silly realm of moral panics on anything adults find new, be it tabletop role-playing games, video games, and, you know, chess, the horrifying story that is coming out of Wisconsin is going to end up in some media outlet somewhere decrying ghost stories on the internet and blaming them for this tragedy.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, two 12-year-old girls in Waukesha, Wisconsin, nearly stabbed their friend to death and left her in the woods, claiming that they wanted to become proxies for the Slender Man. If you aren't familiar with the story behind the Slender Man, "he" is the creation of Eric Knudsen, who edited some photographs as part of a submission to the Something Awful forums. In other words, he just made the whole thing up, which was the entire point. The whole point of the forum was to do photo-editing to create the appearance of something supernatural, and Knudson added to his edits some text that created a minor back story to the Slender Man. From there, the whole thing went viral and the legend has metastasized, in a manner of speaking. That brings us back to Waukesha and the original article about the attempted murder.
Prosecutors say two 12-year-old southeastern Wisconsin girls stabbed their 12-year-old friend nearly to death in the woods to please a mythological creature they learned about online. One of the girls told a detective they were trying to become "proxies" of Slender Man, a mythological demon-like character they learned about on creepypasta.wikia.com, a website about horror stories and legends. They planned to run away to the demon's forest mansion after the slaying, the complaint said.You can already feel it, can't you? That incredible dismay in your being because you know that somehow this whole story is going to get spun into something on the internet causing two, otherwise-sweet twelve-year-olds to become knife-wielding maniacs? Yeah, that's probably going to happen. Here's the thing: it had better happen, because if the same media that is going to blurt out "Video games!" or "Violent movies!" any time we're faced with a tragedy, doesn't simply blame the medium rather than the perpetrators then they just aren't being consistent.
Me? Well, I'd rather build a reputation on being able to look at a couple of clearly disturbed young girls and calling them what they are rather than consistently looking for an out in the form of a media scapegoat, but then again I'm not the cable news networks. When little girls are talking about seeing myths in their dreams, being told by myths to do things, or myths threatening their families, the problem isn't with the myth or the medium on which the myth was delivered.
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How long before we learn...
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The right to not have to read crazy person rants.
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The right to not have to read crazy person rants.
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Plus, there's a multiplayer version where you can play as the Slender Man. That's got to be something.
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You mean other than AWESOME!?!?!?
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There is even an MMO with Slender Men. Well, Enderman. Been playing it for quite some time and I am quite disappointed at how many of the days I could be doing something productive are instead spent in Minecraft.
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I realize that not all MMOs are RPGs, but they are the most abundant. I guess Minecraft's multiplayer mode can be a MMO if you want it to be given the sheer number of players on some of the biggest MP servers out there right now.
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There's a few other Slenderman based games floating around out there on the web, but 'Eight Pages' and 'The Arrival' are the two big ones as far as I know.
As for what happens when you collect all 8 pages, well, I won't spoil it for everyone. You'll just have to play the game yourselves...
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If this were true
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But officer it looked so real, i couldn't tell the differance between the zombi and my ex.
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...that sounds like witch talk to me.
Fyi - If you do your research, I think you'll find the legal precedent for spectral evidence has been well established for over three centuries.
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Folie a deux
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Can't have a witch hunt without burning a few 'witches' I suppose.
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from the Guardian: Police say the two girls waived their Miranda rights and gave statements after they were arrested. Asked by the Guardian why the 12-year-olds had been interrogated without a lawyer present, Captain Ron Oremus of the Waukesha police department said: "If they didn't request we're not providing it � That might happen at a different point when they're charged, that did not happen on our end."
Oremus said the girls' parents were called, and that when they arrived at the station they were informed that their children had waived their Miranda rights, but he did not know when in the interrogation process the parents were told.
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Last I checked, minors cannot waive their rights without a parent and or guardian...
And anything they say can be tossed...
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The best they can hope for is to get the case removed to juvenile court. They're certainly not going to walk away from this.
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They deserve a harsh punishment; say life in prison.
The fact they are 12-year-olds is irrelevant.
They spent months planning this, they knew what they were doing.
They are cold-blooded murderers.
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The concept of 'death' in particular is not an easy thing to come to grips with, whether it's a kid and their inability to understand that death doesn't just mean 'you might not see them again', or teenagers with their immortality complex and their 'living in the now' view of the world.
Now, should the girls in this case get away with it? Absolutely not. However, the proper response should be putting them under psychiatric care/examination, along with the parents, to find out just what led them to a) believe that something fictional was real, b) commit such a violent act because of it, and c) hopefully treat that problem, not just lock them up and throw away the key based upon a purely emotional drive for retribution/vengeance.
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It's not just Slenderman they're attacking
Speaking as an active writer/artist of the Creepypasta community (least on dA), the general reaction to this incident has been a mixture of "OH COME ON! YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!", "We need to try and deflect the negative press asap, or else we'll all end up demonized as evil child-manipulating cultists by the media", and "We need to make a collective gesture of goodwill to the girl who was stabbed."
*sigh*
This is why we can't have nice things.
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The difference with Slender Man
Of course, if these two girls actually believe what they're saying, in addition to being delusional, they're sociopathic enough to not only be willing to commit human sacrifice, but they also want to be the servants of an eldritch abomination. With a pair of delusional sociopaths like that, it would only have been a matter of time before they ended up doing something horrible.
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I beg to differ. First, the whole slenderman thing is bogus on its face. But, more importantly, if someone really believes the Slenderman stuff so much that they will base extreme life (and life-threatening) decisions on it, one would think that they've at least done a bit of googling on it. Most people who believe crazy things do spend quite a bit of time and energy reading up on those things, after all.
A short time with Google will rapidly lead you to the source of Slenderman. To continue to believe it's real after that is highly delusional.
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... or perhaps young enough to be influenced by the story and not the reality. Not all prepubescent children have a full developed reasoning system, but most of them seem to have a very good internet connection.
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only so much you can do to protect people from their own stupidity, and usually, that is too much...
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So it begins... Already on DrudgeReport
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We used to teach kids critical thinking in schools
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http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2014/06/slender-man-myth-leads-to-12-year-olds-stabbing-classma te-to-prove-its-real/
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It has become a sport in America to find a way that your own actions are no longer your fault.
The girls made a decision to do something, and then we accept them saying they were made to do it by something they read.
In Detroit, a teacher ended up fired because 2 students got into a fight and when assistance was not coming to help, she got involved hitting the students with a handle to break it up. They interviewed one of the students involved who felt he had done nothing wrong, despite having decided to solve his issue with his fists. The students mother sat there and supported the delusion that he had nothing to feel sorry about in the situation. He decided to escalate a situation to where violence happened, but found a way to abdicate his responsibility and adults supported this move.
Let's blame the internet is the easy answer to the problem.
Don't look into the family.
Don't look into medical issues.
Don't wonder how they could have planned this for months with no one being the wiser.
Don't wonder about the lack of supervision.
Just blame the internet, the internet is responsible.
The internet makes people do things.
The internet made you help that prince move his millions.
The internet made you cheat on your partner.
The internet made you fat.
The internet made you...
because we are willing to blame an inanimate object rather than admit personal responsibility.
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And yes, I intentionally signed out before posting here, because I'm afraid of her.
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everyone goes WTH!?
here's comes the police... With some lobbyist and lawmakers right behind them.
after investigation, they found the source of the problem: A website in the Internet.
THEN, media exaggerated the story to the point that Eric Knudsen was painted as a devil of the crime of the two girls.
The Police(those who threw common sense into the bin, again.) goes into a manhunt for Eric Knudsen for his creation.
Then the lobbyist and the Lawmakers goes to court, Roaring like a freaking T-rex about restricting websites about supernatural and stuff.
And here comes ANOTHER bill that will censor, block and restrict certain websites.
Some of the Lawmakers sees it as an opportunity to slip some SOPA/PIPA/etc fragments, to make it even more broken to the point that posting something that falls under certain criteria will be counted as a crime, NO QUESTION asked.
And the Netizens goes for another fight against a bill that will mess up the free speech in the net...
AND yet NO ONE even asked the parents of the two girls if the girls were doing something out of the ordinary or even asked if what they saw in the Internet is even real or not.
Nor the Girls even research even further about the topic they found in the Internet.
Jeez... What's next? World war 3 started by China And Korea that will end in Mutual Assured Destruction just because they didn't even take any dispute to the diplomacy side and just go for the badass military side?
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