NSA's XKeyscore Source Code Leaked! Shows Tor Users Classified As 'Extremists'

from the peeling-away-the-layers dept

Thu, Jul 3rd 2014 7:42am — Glyn Moody

We learnt about the NSA's XKeyscore program a year ago, and about its incredibly wide reach. But now the German TV stations NDR and WDR claim to have excerpts from its source code. We already knew that the NSA and GCHQ have been targeting Tor and its users, but the latest leak reveals some details about which Tor exit nodes were selected for surveillance -- including at least one in Germany, which is likely to increase public anger there. It also shows that Tor users are explicitly regarded as "extremists" (original in German, pointed out to us by @liese_mueller):

The source code contains both technical instructions and comments from the developers that provide an insight into the mind of the NSA. Thus, all users of such programs are equated with "extremists".

Such is the concern about Tor that even visitors to Tor sites -- whether or not they use the program -- have their details recorded: not only long-term users of this encryption software become targets for the [US] secret service. Anyone who wants to visit the official Tor Web site simply for information is highlighted.
The source code also gives the lie to the oft-repeated claim that only metadata, not content, is gathered: With the source code can be proven beyond reasonable doubt for the first time that the NSA is reading not only so-called metadata, that is, connection data. If emails are sent using the Tor network, then programming code shows that the contents -- the so-called email-body -- are evaluated and stored.
As well as all this interesting information, what's important here is that it suggests the source of this leak -- presumably Edward Snowden, although the German news report does not name him -- copied not just NSA documents, but source code too. As in the present case, that is likely to provide a level of detail that goes well beyond descriptive texts.

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Ninja (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 6:34am

O wow.. I'm an extremist O_O

Who else here is an extremist?

Does this make Techdirt a terrorist/extremist group? (NSA generalization says everybody here is now a potential target ;D)
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TheResidentSkeptic (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 7:12am

I'm the oldest one!
I'm a 61 yr old tor exit node operator! Now I have an FBI file and an NSA file!!! I'm SO proud!!!!

Let's all run out to wally world, grab a cheap laptop, toss a tor exit node on it, and fire it up. Let's see how many we can get going here!
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rw (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 7:15am

Re:
Count me in!
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 7:46am

Please people, keep using Tor and claiming it's secure...
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 7:54am

GitHub, anyone?
I'd be interested in seeing the source code put in a git repository in order to comb it over for potential flaws
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Michael, 3 Jul 2014 @ 7:55am

Snowden really Tor them a new a**hole with this leak.
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alternatives(), 3 Jul 2014 @ 7:56am

if BRL-CAD is free because it is a public work
why isn't xkeyscore?
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Michael, 3 Jul 2014 @ 7:58am

Re: if BRL-CAD is free because it is a public work
because TERRORISTS!!!!!
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Jack, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:05am

Re:
Well, if they are just targeting exit nodes and don't have both your entry and exit nodes compromised, as long as you aren't using any personally identifying information (obvious ones like name and address, and non-obvious ones like user-agent, headers, and cookies) you are still fine and anonymous. They can see what you are doing, but not who you are.

As long as you are careful about how you are using TOR, it is still safe. That is until the NSA has all 3 of your nodes compromised...

A big caveat for the NSA though - while they may be able to compromise a few nodes here and there or set up a bunch of fake nodes, it is such a big network that it would be very unlikely to have both your entry and exit node at the same time. Plus, you can simply change your route through the TOR network with a single click, which should be done often anyway. 5 or 10 years from now, who knows...

Always treat TOR like you are being monitored and are already compromised. Switch routes frequently, never use the same user-agent, always rotate through names/accounts, never allow JS and always make sure cookies are cleared out and sessions are closed after every single use.

Plus, you can always use proxy-chains and go through a VPN before entering TOR - it doesn't slow you down at all since TOR is always slower than a VPN.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:10am

Re:
I've used tor before, I guess that makes me an extremist. What's more I'm Palestinian (though I'm not Muslim) so that's two out of three.
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orbitalinsertion (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:23am

If Tor users are extremists,
what does that make the NSA?
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:27am

Re:
Everyone here is an Extremist!

All of their definitions are so damn broad that is the only classification left that applies. Including our elected officials.
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Beta (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:30am

Re: I'm the oldest one!
You need a handle! How about Black Fire? Wax Man? Pink Oboe? Mister Six? The Cultural Reference?
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Keyboard-Rider, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:30am

Suggestion for a secure PC & Internet in times of surveillance scandal
• Operating system: https://tails.boum.org/ (used by Snowden; free software, which tunnels all internet traffic automatically through the TOR network, and which surface can look like the surface of Windows 8 or XP)
• + https://freenetproject.org (most secure anonymous filesharing software, which exists so far)

Regarding software the most important thing is to use a secure operation system; it's the fundament for everything, which you do with a PC regarding software. So it's a weakness, if on the one hand one relies on programs like the freenet project or TOR, but on the other hand does so on foundation of windows, which has a direct wire to the NSA.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:32am

Re:
That was Toriffic!
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mcinsand, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:33am

given their behavior
If a Tor user is an extremist, I have no doubt that they would call the Bill of Rights authors full blown terrorists.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:37am

Next thing you know
New NSA leak, anyone associated with Techdirt is an extremist.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:39am

Re: Re:
There is an exemption for elected officials, at least the corrupt ones. Being an honest person is considered extreme while being a corrupt politician bought by corporations is considered normal.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:41am

mmm
I not only use Tor but develop a version of it that is in wide distribution.

God only knows now what they have no me.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:42am

Re: I've got you all beat
Not only do I run a Tor relay, but I've written open source code that uses encryption and I've posted anonymous comments that make fun of the NSA. To add icing to the cake, one time, I had a missed call on my cell phone and it had a country code of Egypt on it.

So I'm sure I'm now considered a valid selector by the NSA. And thanks to Obama's two hop rule, by downloading this comment you are now a valid target to have all your email downloaded, read, processed and saved for later use by the government as they see fit.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:44am

Re: Re: I'm the oldest one!
Ooh, Ooh, I call overweight white guy in the suburbs. Or OWIGITS for short.
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Michael, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:47am

Re: If Tor users are extremists,
freedom fighters
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:47am

Re: Re: I'm the oldest one!
He needs the name WANG FIRE! Because nothing is epic without WANG FIRE!
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art guerrilla (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:49am

Re: Re: If Tor users are extremists,
fighting *against* freedom, you mean ? ? ?
you got that right...
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Seegras (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:50am

Re:
> Who else here is an extremist?

That I wouldn't know. But obviously those guys in the NSA are extremists.
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Seegras (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:53am

Re: given their behavior
> I have no doubt that they would call the Bill of Rights
> authors full blown terrorists.

Totally so. If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were alive today, the US government would have a revolutionary war going against it.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:53am

Re: given their behavior
Apparently they were extremists as well. ...at least according to the DoD.

0_o
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BentFranklin (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:55am

The extremists are the ones who say "anything is permissible" in the fight against what ever it is they are fighting. that is probably the number one hallmark of extremism. So on that basis I put NSA and Al Qaeda in the same bin.
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mcinsand, 3 Jul 2014 @ 8:58am

freedom fighters
I have to agree. Within the US, NSA does work hard to fight against freedom.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:01am

Whatever is an extremist
Hey whatever how does it fell knowing that you are classified as an extremist by those you support?
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:01am

Re: freedom fighters
I was going to replace "US" with "world", but then I realized those are basically the same thing to the USG
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Michael, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:05am

Re:
The first rule of extremist club: don't talk about extremist club.
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Anonsters (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:05am

Re: Re:
I think you meant Torrible.
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Anonsters (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:07am

Re: Re:
Oh, come on. You ought to know by now that being Palestinian means that you're a double-whammy worst-of-the-worst bad person. 'Murica!
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Ruben, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:16am

Re:
Tor all by itself doesn't really help that much from a security standpoint.

Tor on windows borders on futile. You can be exploited so many other ways.

The only way to approach security(if you really care) is holistically. Start with a secure OS from a trusted source, and build up from there. The tails project is a good way to achieve this without too much effort.
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Michael, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:21am

Re: Re: Re:
That one was a little tortured.
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sorrykb (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:22am

At this point...
...if you're not being classified as an extremist by the NSA, you're doing something wrong.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:22am

Re: Re: Re: Re:
there's no need to Torpedo the guy for making a bad pun.
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tomczerniawski, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:25am

Well, since we're already extremists...
It's high time we all started learning how to make bombs.

I mean, you never know when that kind of thing will be handy, as an extremist.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:25am

Re:
Probably as according to Cory Doctorow just looking up anything about TOR makes you an extremist, so they probably consider Techdirt a hotbed of extremists, as it has discussed TOR etc.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:31am

Re:
Nowhere does it say that this leak came from Snowden. It's possible. But it's just as likely that someone else has stepped up and leaked this in the wake of all that has happened. Still we can expect to see Roger's shooting his mouth off with all kinds of unsubstantiated allegations this weekend.
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Anonsters (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:31am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Why do all of you insist on tormenting me so?
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:33am

Re: Re: If Tor users are extremists,
You mean like how fire fighters fight fire right?
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:33am

I am an extremist
time to behave like one!

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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:37am

So wait
If I post the link to the Tor homepage, am I giving material aid to terrrrrists? Also, would the NSA classify Googlebot as a person of interest when it follows said link?
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:37am

Re: Re: Re: I'm the oldest one!
And his wife, Saph Fire.
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Varsil, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:40am

Re: Re:
I don't think the NSA believes in the existence of non-Muslim Palestinians. So don't worry, they're counting you as 3/3.
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Michael, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:47am

Re: Re:
First, the likelihood of another NSA employee or contractor leaking something like this right now? Snowden is very likely the source.

Second - are you really trying to start up a real conversation on my bad "tor" pun thread?
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Michael, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:49am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Truthfully, I was torn about even bringing it up.
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Ruben, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:49am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Please, don't get swept up in this tornado of negativity.
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Michael, 3 Jul 2014 @ 9:50am

Re: Next thing you know
Dark Helmet is a double agent.
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Anonsters (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:00am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
I'm now torn between reading the Torah and filing a tort suit for intentional infliction of emotional distress.
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Digitari, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:12am

Oldie, but a Goody
Tora, Tora, Tora!!

(will this put the MPAA on the extremist list?)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066473/
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Jeff (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:13am

Kafka called...
The unbelievable irony of the NSA calling Tor users 'extremists' - the USG provides 80% of the funding for Tor(1)... so does that make the rest of the Gov't extremists too?

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Fowler, Geoffrey A. (17 December 2012). Tor: An Anonymous, And Controversial, Way to Web-Surf. Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 3 July 2014
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PRMan, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:19am

Re:
I went there once to see what it was. Guess I am extreme.
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DogBreath, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:27am

Re: Re: if BRL-CAD is free because it is a public work
I thought it was : "because TorRORISTS!!!!!"
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:28am

Re: GitHub, anyone?
Here is the core routine:

bool isExtermest(std::string name) {
if (name != "John Smith") {
return true; // Not an american.
}

if (name == "John Smith") {
return true; // Obviously hiding something.
}

// Lots of irrelevant code.

return false;
}
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:32am

Re: Re: I'm the oldest one!
Cemetery Wind has a nice right to it!
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Lars (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:36am

Re: mmm
Literally everything.

Ever seen the contents of a full background check? Now add in everything you've ever posted online, posted near you online, or referred to anything you've ever even viewed online.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:38am

Re: Re: GitHub, anyone?
I fixed that inefficient code for you, this will do what you want.. (*)

bool isExtremist(std::string name) {

return true;
}

(* efficiency is important here after all, we can't waste processor cycles when we're processing everyone on the darned planet and in orbit around it, and we have built in capability for processing non-earth aliens by not using human characteristics as determinants)
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Ruben, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:43am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Contorted, I see.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:48am

Re: Re: Re:
1. I don't think it's much of a stretch to that someone else might leak information right now considering... 1. Anyone choosing to leak now knows that there are plenty of people out there that will support and try to protect them and 2. the public is paying attention these sorts of things and 3. they have practically been given a road map with step by step instructions for doing it successfully.

2. I didn't really mean to divert your pun torrent either.
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Gaming_Geek, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:49am

We're all extremists! The more the merrier I guess!
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 11:03am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Or you could just BitTorrent a torrid little film to watch.
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Gaming_Geek (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 11:23am

Re:
So the extremists are the Assassins from Assassin's Creed? Everything is permitted?

Does that make the NSA the Templars?
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Ruben, 3 Jul 2014 @ 11:38am

Re: Re: Re:
This doesn't fit with previous content leaked from the Snowden cache. I believe there's a second leaker involved in this. Every article I've seen which cited a Snowden leak was conspicuously labeled as such. Why wouldn't that be the case here?
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Ninja (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 11:54am

Re: Re:
Aha, true enough!
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 12:20pm

Re: Re:
I went there once to see what it was. Guess I am extreme.

Ditto that. And I used my work computer, too.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 12:31pm

Re: Re:
Whoever it is - this could be the start of something huge. I wonder what other pieces of source code they may have absconded. Encryption/decryption routines? Exploits created in-house?
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 12:39pm

Re: Re:
Oh really?

https://cpunks.org//pipermail/cypherpunks/2014-July/004922.html
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Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 12:56pm

Re:
The idea of a second leaker is getting some traction. Bruce Schneier and Cory Doctorow both think this did not come from the Snowden docs.
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That One Guy (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 1:04pm

Re: Re: given their behavior
Oh nothing so large-scale I'm sure, as soon as they started to look like they were trouble-makers, they'd have been scooped up, black bagged, and disappeared in a cell somewhere.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 1:08pm

Re: Suggestion for a secure PC & Internet in times of surveillance scandal
Heads up. There hasn't been a version of Tails yet that doesn't phone home in some manner. In the beginning, their justification for the behavior was to "count" Tails users. Now, many versions down the line, it's automatically "checking for updates". You cannot defeat this with any setting, although you could certainly hex-edit the executable, and burn a new iso (recommended).

This inexorable connection to boum.org, *in and of itself*, is a red-flag pointing to Tails usage.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 1:14pm

Re: Kafka called...
No. In their view, they're providing you rope in the hopes you will hang yourself (so to speak).
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 1:24pm

I didn't realize I was an extremist. I guess now I have to breed terriers and start listening to Abba.
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Ruben, 3 Jul 2014 @ 1:39pm

Re: Re: Re:
What's your point there? All I see are unsubstantiated claims.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 2:23pm

even visitors to Tor sites -- whether or not they use the program -- have their details recorded

So curiosity suicide-bombed the cat then?
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 2:41pm

Re: Re: Re: Re:
In that case, I would suggest you look further than you previously have. I will not look for you.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 3:07pm

The source code comments left by these NSA spying extremists, provides us with a clear picture into the culture and mindset of radical NSA spying fanatics.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 3:38pm

Re: Re: Re:
To be fair since you're responding to an extremist they will classify you as one too.
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Padpaw (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 3:53pm

Under the enemy expatriation act ( H.R. 3166 and S. 1698)the US government can strip a US citizen of their citizenship and their rights if they are classified as a terrorist.

So what makes a citizen a terrorist, anything and everything these days.

If you visit sites that preach dissent against any form of government misconduct congrats your a terrorist. If you protest anything peaceful or violent, your a terrorist. If you question your government over anything again your labelled a terrorist.

Just look at the NDA to see extreme examples of how "national security" trumps the constitution.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 5:36pm

Re: Whatever is an extremist
Was going to post this, but someone beat me to the punch.

Obviously Whatever is fine with it, because all copyright/NSA fanboys are masochists by nature. How else could they loudly and proudly claim more copyright extensions and surveillance betters culture and society, while still keeping a poker face?
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Eldakka (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 6:36pm

Re: Re: Re:
Actually I think it's easier to leak stuff right now, as Snowden will get the blame no-matter who the leaker is.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:08pm

Re:
Who else here is an extremist?

At least TD readers are aware of the issues. But I do feel bad for people like Ty Pennington, snowboarders, anyone who eats Doritos...
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Coyne Tibbets (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 10:13pm

Extremely extremist sensitive
I would be interested to know if there is even one single person in the whole wide world, that NSA would not list as an extremist. (Assuming there are any it hasn't already listed.)
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T (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 11:49pm

Re: Kafka called...
I'd say it makes them a state sponsor of Torrorism.

Next they'll be arguing in court that because it's so government-funded, users have no expectation of privacy!
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T (profile), 3 Jul 2014 @ 11:57pm

Re: Extremely extremist sensitive
The President at the time. Him/her ever be an extremist or violate the law? Un-possible!
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jul 2014 @ 5:05am

Re: Re: Re: Re:
And by extension so are you!
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Benny Adama, 4 Jul 2014 @ 5:25am

From now on I will make TOR my landing site, and TAILS my Main O/S
In defiance, I am not using anonymous name:
From now on I will make TOR my landing site, and TAILS my Main Linux O/S.
Now Good luck NSA be my daily guest!
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Peter, 4 Jul 2014 @ 5:37am

jokers.....
common,

this is not the xkeyscore code. everyone who works with this kind of data knows, this is only a selector for something but nothing more.

do you realy believe the sourcecode for xkeyscore is somewhere on the table ? even, this short piece of code is never ever "The xkeyscore sourcecode".

.....
over and out
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jul 2014 @ 1:00pm

I am an extreme terrorist!
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Anonymous Coward, 4 Jul 2014 @ 7:29pm

Re: Whatever is an extremist
Agreed. Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.
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Coyne Tibbets (profile), 5 Jul 2014 @ 3:18am

Not just interested in encryption...
So let's see...the news articles claim the NSA is interested in people who are interested in encryption or Tor.

Well, according to the code snippet at NSA Targets the Privacy-Conscious for Surveillance, it goes just a bit beyond that...

In fact, NSA captures every web search containing one of these words: "linux", "USB", "CD", "IRC" (Internet Relay Chat). They also capture anyone who goes to any article whatsoever that begins with "http://linuxjournal.com/content/linux". Does that sound like "interested in encryption" to you?

This fits right in with my ideas of the NSA: When they claim they want x, they just capture everything and keep it all. If challenged, they say something like, "No, really, we were only interested in 'x'."

Should we believe that? When, in this case, they capture every web search that contains the words above, whether it involves encryption or not?
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Coyne Tibbets (profile), 5 Jul 2014 @ 3:35am

Re: Not just interested in encryption...
Sigh. I read the code wrong, with respect to the words list. The words must appear in combination with either the word "tails" or term "Amnesiac Incognito Live System". So it's not quite as sensitive to the words as I believed.

It is sensitive to all the linuxjournal.com articles matching the lead-in, though.
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abbadabba, 5 Jul 2014 @ 6:13am

hay
HAY! I never used this tor before. My bro says it's for downloading stuff without paying for it. So I bet the bums in corporatism are behind this. Imagine how many people they will send to jail for just being cheap bastards who can't wait for it to come out on Netflix.

Isn't Germany where NewsCorp found someone to make code to help folks download card codes for their competitors' TV satellite services? So that's sort of like tor, passing around the pirated shite, but hoping it kills the competition at the same time.

Did you catch that criminal activity, NSA? Have you redeployed it?
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abbadabba, 5 Jul 2014 @ 6:21am

Germany is perfectly placed to pie face the Five Eyes.

David Cameron's email in Rebekah Brooks' BlackBerry was reported to the Leveson court to have lost its content after spending three weeks in police custody. The other email had text, so my bet is that's David's Tempora file well passed it's sellbuy date, gone meta after 30 days. Who's the Rose Mary Woods this time? Home Secretary. GCHQ, you silly beans.

Give Cameron what he deserves, a big BlackBerry Pie in the facebook, Germany! Your pastry is vastly superior to his.
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Beta (profile), 5 Jul 2014 @ 8:12am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
I, for one, always try to look further than I previously have. But I will not chase your ball into the weeds.
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Anonymous Coward, 5 Jul 2014 @ 8:32am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Suit yourself. Just remember, there are things hiding in the weeds you should be aware of.
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TtfnJohn (profile), 5 Jul 2014 @ 10:40am

Re:
I've been in rooms in church basements full, just packed, with extremists!! These are Alcoholics Anonymous where some newbies take the Anonymity clause to ridiculous extremes and so use Tor as their way of maintaining their anonymity while on line! Though they'll stay members pf Facebook! Which we all know is just packed with extremists!
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Anonymous Coward, 5 Jul 2014 @ 10:19pm

All this nonsense about Torrorists, is a bunch of bullsqueeze. Can't we all just be extreme friends?
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Ali, 7 Jul 2014 @ 8:02am

boss
so lets see, I use tor alot, I use linux, I have tails on usb,
I am a security enthusiastic and most importantly I AM A MUSLIM.

move along kids Boss is here ;)
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Mar 2015 @ 5:18pm

Hi,I am a extreemeist looking to Tor the Constitution to pieces and blow up the white house
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Mar 2015 @ 5:19pm

Hi,I am a extremist looking to Tor the Constitution to pieces and blow up the white house
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Mar 2015 @ 5:19pm

Hi,I am a extremist looking to Tor the Constitution to pieces and blow up the white house
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Mar 2015 @ 5:19pm

Hi,I am a extremist looking to Tor the Constitution to pieces and blow up the white house
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Mar 2015 @ 5:19pm

Hi,I am a extremist looking to Tor the Constitution to pieces and blow up the white house
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steve, 26 Jan 2016 @ 4:54am

No wonder SkyNet is already here only what is missing is some artificial intelligence on some quantum supercomputer (or it is already running???)! Notorious Pathological Crazy Americans - the whole god damn world is terrorist then ! They are in desperate need for some Aliens otherwise we are screwed up !
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