Another Story Of A 'Fake' Brilliant Inventor? Is 'Scorpion Walter O'Brien' A Real Computer Security Genius?
from the more-of-this-crap? dept
There's apparently a new TV show on CBS called Scorpion that has received mixed-to-decent reviews. It supposedly is about some computer security geniuses/outcasts who help "solve complex, global problems." However, Annalee Newitz's description of the stupidest, most batshit insane hacker scene ever from the first episode, suggests that the show is not worth watching. In the past few years, it had been kind of nice to see Hollywood actually seem to have some clue about accurately portraying hacking in some situations, but that's all apparently been tossed out the window with Scorpion. Even if you don't read Newitz's story (or view the video clip), just know it involves an ethernet cable hanging from a flying plane with a car racing beneath it to download some backup software needed by the airport so planes can land. Yeah.
A big part of the show's marketing is the claim that the story is partially based on the life of one of the show's executive producers, Walter O'Brien. CBS News has an article talking up these claims of O'Brien's amazing feats, helping out its parent company, CBS, who broadcasts the show. But... for such a "genius," many of O'Brien's claims are coming under scrutiny, and they're not holding up well. Having just gone through the whole Shiva Ayyadurai / inventor of email crap, it's beginning to sound like a similar case of someone pumping up their own past for publicity purposes.
The claims about O'Brien are both odd and oddly specific. Here's CBS's reporting:
Walter O’Brien has the fourth highest IQ in the world.
Elsewhere, he claims that he was "diagnosed as a child prodigy with an IQ of 197." First off, there are significant questions about IQ as a particularly useful measurement of anything. Furthermore, the idea that there's some definitive list of those with the highest IQs seems equally questionable. A quick Google search will show you a whole bunch of "top 10 lists" of IQs -- all of them different, and none of them including anyone named Walter O'Brien.
O'Brien's story started unraveling when he made the somewhat unwise decision to do a Reddit AMA. Redditors are pretty good at sniffing out completely bogus claims, and it didn't take them long here. Also, Asher Langton has been doing a bang up job debunking basically every claim that O'Brien makes.
Among other things, O'Brien's story claims that he began Scorpion Computer Services in the mid-1980s and that "Scorpion has mitigated risk for 7 years on $1.9 trillion of investments and has invented and applied Artificial Intelligence engines to protect United States war fighters in Afghanistan." It's not even entirely clear what that means. It goes on:
Since 1988, Scorpion's team of world class experts partner with clients on a global basis, across industries, to add real measurable value in mission-critical initiatives from planning, to execution, to running the business. Scorpion's senior management has a collective knowledge of more than 413 technologies, 210 years in IT, and 1,360 projects. Scorpion himself has created over 177 unique technology inventions including ScenGen and WinLocX and is one of the world's leading experts in the application of computer science and artificial intelligence to solve complex industry challenges."
Again with the odd, and oddly specific claims. They have knowledge of 413 technologies? Do they have a list somewhere? Does it include the coffee machine in the lunch room? Did they send someone out to get the new iPhone 6 to make it 414? Either way, there are... just a few problems with these claims. As Langton points out, the "headquarters" of Scorpion Computer Services Inc. does not appear to be a particularly large or impressive company. Its headquarters is actually... a UPS store address That report notes that it has one employee, and revenue of $66k. It's possible that the report is inaccurate, but for such a big and successful company, you'd expect to see... at least a bit more historical evidence of its existence. But there is none.
And then there's this page (and here's the web archive version in case O'Brien figures out how to delete the old page), which apparently used to be the site for Walter's Scorpion computer Services, that, um, looks like it was built on GeoCities -- complete with the animated fire torches next to the dreadfully designed logo.
For a big, massively successful company... you'd expect, um, something a bit more professional. Walter's own Linkedin profile notes that he actually worked at Capital Group for a while, with redditors claiming he was just a QA guy there, though his profile says he was a "technology executive." Many other claims on the company's website read like self-promotional gibberish. "We saved $43 billion in opportunity risks over a five-year period." "We invented an efficiency engine that performs 250 human years of work every 1.5 hrs with over 99% improvement over human error." By the way, the "see how" link on that last one doesn't actually show you "how" it just takes you to a page about how the company is a value added reseller "for proven IT products." The entire website looks like gibberish from someone trying to sound like a real tech company. It reminds me of Jukt Micronics.
Langton also turned up that O'Brien appears to have another "company" called Strike Force, using the same UPS Store address, and with very, very, very, very similar website design and bullshittery. That site has a really bizarre "what others say" page, listing out random referrals for O'Brien, which are generally just the standard empty "personal reference letters" people without much experience tend to ask some former colleagues for when looking for a new job. The first one is from Steven Messino (with the date conveniently stripped off) which looks like the generic job reference letter:
Note that O'Brien claims that Messino is the co-founder of Sun. That's... not true. Anyone who knows anything about the history of Sun knows it was co-founded by Andy Bechtolsheim, Bill Joy, Scott McNealy and Vinod Khosla in 1982. Messino's own LinkedIn page shows he joined Sun in 1988. Six years after it was founded. Also, Sun had its IPO in 1986. So it's not like this was a small company when Messino joined... as a "regional sales manager."
Basically, everywhere you look, O'Brien's claims are either massively exaggerated to downright ridiculous.
There are also some odd personal claims about "Homeland Security" coming to find him as a 13-year old boy for hacking into NASA. Except, when he was 13, there was no Homeland Security -- an agency established after the September 11, 2001 attacks. O'Brien also claims this:
Scorpion was born and raised in Ireland, and at 16, ranked first in national high speed computer problem solving competitions. At 18, he competed in the World Olympics in Informatics and has ranked as high as the sixth fastest programmer in the world.
Sixth fastest programmer in the world? Really? Some folks on Reddit noted that it doesn't appear Ireland competed in the "International Olympiad in Informatics" in 1993, though someone else found a report from the University of Sussex, which O'Brien attended, noting that O'Brien had come in 6th in a different contest, but in the Olympiad itself, he came in 90th. I mean that's great for an 18 year old, but it hardly makes him into some programming genius.
And we won't even touch the claims that his programming helped catch the Boston Marathon bombers, because... well... really?
Frankly, the parallels with Ayyadurai and the email story are there. It certainly appears that, like Ayyadurai, O'Brien was a bright kid who did some impressive programming as a teenager, but then didn't appear to amount to all that much noteworthy beyond that. Try searching for any news references or evidence of O'Brien doing anything other than in the last few months in the publicity leading up to this new TV show. However, he is trying to reinvent himself and rewrite his history as some sort of genius programmer responsible for all sorts of amazing things, very little of which seems directly supportable. Of course, CBS doesn't really care, so long as they have a fun TV show that people watch, but at the very least, they shouldn't continue to spread the exaggerated myths about O'Brien that appear to have little basis in fact.
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Mr. Gavron,I am astonished by your comments on my commentary. You call me retarded. You call other people names in this thread. You criticize people left and right. You are an angry soul! You need to do something with your life rather than spending time arguing with strangers on the Internet.
You have some unresolved issues that you need to get help with. Clearly you need to call attention to yourself and want people to think you are smart. But the way you are doing it doesn't accomplish that. Instead you are coming across as belligerent and unintelligent (which you are!).
Get some help.
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Its like saying there is a Doctor that knows everything about the human body.
What the fuck ever!
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I wish there had been someone to catch how smart I was. I was smarter than all my teacheres from 3rd grade on and was so bored I just got in trouble. The other kids didnt want to study or read all the time so i started smoking weed to dumb myself down so I could have friends. This show is inspiring and is helping me understand myself and my son better.
Really only someone with average or lower IQ would think it was simply about hacking. Of course they hollywood it up to get the dumbasses who dont get the real meaning something to bitch about.
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It's a TV show, intended to make their demographics identify with them and feel better about themselves. This one is targeted to viewers who identify with genius, so it tells its viewers they're misunderstood and smart and pats them on the back. (I quit Mensa in grade school because that's all I saw happening there; a mutual back-patting society.)
If the show were about sports, it would have a dream team of physical misfits for the viewers to vicariously feel athletically superior through.
Validation should come through real-life experiences and efforts, not aggrandizing TV shows.
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I've explained probably a dozen times already, that I'm absolutely fine with the TV show being entertaining. My issue is with journalists not doing their job *and* with the fact that Walter is trying to build his business based on what appear to be false pretenses.
Enjoy the show. That's great. I have no problem with the show itself, but with the lies about the real life Walter.
If you want absolute truth do the research yourself.
Which, you know, is what I actually did.
Oh, and the Marvel super heroes aren't real either.
Right. But they also don't claim to be and aren't running a company in which they ask for your money based on those false pretenses.
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Homeland Security.
Also, FBI claims, feel free to read their site...
https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/faqs
They would never go to another country to perform legal functions. They work with other countries when international incidents occur.
As for his iq, he himself says he has no proof.
http://m.fastcompany.com/3036897/hackers-vs-scorpion-walter-obrien-responds-to-scrutiny-of-rea l-life-claims-fueling-tvs-scorp
So, your points ate all wrong. Consider your methods of research. They're bad.
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>... and it was Interpol
What was Interpol?
> People need to check facts I agree.
You agree with yourself, but nobody failed to check facts. So, yes, in general people do need to check facts... but that's not ever been in dispute.
>... yet there is truth behind his facts...
You really should read the article.
>...as someone with a high IQ I...
As someone boasting about a high IQ and not being able to compose a literate sentence, a complete one, or even separate into coherent thoughts I suspect the only high IQ you have is the one your mom told you she was sure you had when you were seven.
>...lying to me isn't logical.
Nobody was talking to you. Nobody lied to you. Lying isn't illogical, Mr. Spock.
> We have little feelings for others because...
...you're sociopaths.
Have a great night, and go get a real IQ test, and then sign up for remedial high-school English if you intend to use English for writing.
If you're from a country where English is not your primary Language, then skip that last suggestion and just get a real IQ test.
Try not to be disappointed when you find out you're a sociopath who thinks his/her lack of feelings justifies his/her behavior.
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No, wait. Use wifi, dumbass.
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It might sell some fantasy to people with inflated checkbooks, but if he is inaccurate in his own biography you expect the programs to work as he claims?
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There were 3375 other EB1-1 visas granted that year.
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How else do you expect people to believe you are a "genius"? Actually make statements about your "geniusness" and have them be verifiable? That is soooo 20th century thinking, and no longer necessary in the 21st.
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Oh, and don't forget, folks, that F-117A/TARDIS was invented by Mr. O'Brien himself.
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This actually makes sense. If Mr. O'Brien had access to the TARDIS, then presumably he had a sonic screwdriver...which can hack anything except wood.
Computer genius, or man with a sonic screwdriver? I guess we'll never know...
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In Scorpion (the TV show) the jet's ethernet connection to the laptop in the Ferrari was crazy and illogical but it was just the most obvious example of how they're going for a "cartoon" reality level. I won't take it seriously, but I can still enjoy it.
The bogus claims about real life accomplishments though... those are not enjoyable at all, even though they are a complete joke.
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as per usual, movies are just too shallow and time-limited to include ALL that is in a book, but followed the book pretty well..
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As for the show, the reality one must suspend to accept the show as good is appalling. The first episode had a gigantic plot hole. Its been discussed in the comment section ad nauseum. From what I've read here, the rest of the episodes haven't gotten any more believable.
So, a fictional account that doesn't adhere to basic understanding of technology. But aside from that, I'm sure its great.
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In fact, so long as the movie doesn't take itself seriously as an attempt to portray something that happened or could actually happen, they can be perfectly enjoyable. Get the audience to buy into the absurdity - don't fool them into believing it is based on reality.
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IQ tests are funny beasts. An IQ of 197 statistically translates to being in the top 99.9999999950% of people tested - or 1 in 1.5 billion. There have been people claiming IQ scores so ridiculously high that would have put them as the highest-scoring person who ever lived plus will ever live for the next hundred centuries.
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx
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They want to filter out everyone with enough brains to give them trouble.
Sadly, if we get old enough, we'll ally reach that mental level.
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Maybe they really meant the 4th highest score possible (i.e. 200, 199, 198, 197). - Not that he's the 4th highest scoring person in the world.
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IQ tests are really only good for one thing: they're reasonably good at predicting how well you'll do in college. They're not very good for anything else, including gauging actual intelligence.
Indeed, the very notion that intelligence can be meaningfully represented as a single number flies in the face of everything we know about intelligence.
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Perhaps the greatest factor in life success might be "social intelligence" - a talent that may be far beyond any kind of standardized method to test for it.
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Bahaha, you wish Pollyanna! In the real world the people who rise to the top of corporate america fit the profile of psychopaths.
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The Kardashians,
The Fill in the Blank - Chef, Show,
Red Reddington on the Blacklist, and
Scorpion.
Obviously, on Red Reddington is the real genius. Now that show bad ass!
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Enquiring minds want to know two things
2. If yes, can we arrange a Thunderdome match to settle this?
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*By his specific and correct definition.
**See above.
***Ibid.
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Of course, "Scorpion" is true...
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100' long ethernet cable
Why do I care about this again, seriously if you are not watching connections your not watching anything worth watching.
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He never participated in the Olympiads
http://stats.ioinformatics.org/halloffame/all
(Hint: You've been reading about him)
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This is where I heard Walter talks about this story. I'm sure that it's not the only source.
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Go after Goldman Sachs or the Federal Reserve. They seriously lie to the population, Walter is small potatoes.
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Lied to the public about accomplishments he didn't do.
Everybody reaps what they sow. He is basically a man who promotes himself aggressively.
By lying. Reaping what you so means that when you lie, it comes out and there are consequences.
Go after Goldman Sachs or the Federal Reserve. They seriously lie to the population, Walter is small potatoes.
You must be new here. Do you not think we highlight others' lies as well?
In the meantimes, since you're the first person we've seen defending Walter, can we ask if you have any personal connection to him?
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Anyone with the gall to puff themselves up and parade around as some sort of genius can expect to be taken down -- and hard. It's an old tradition, and these beat-downs make for great spectator sport.
My person favorite was Aaron Barr, head of HBGary Federal, the self-proclaimed "internet security expert" who got hacked wide open and exposed as not only a malodorous character, but an idiot as well.
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Thank you for this article
As you might be able to tell from my username, I am one of the posters of Reddit that is referenced in this article. I have known Walter previously, and he is the most exaggerated, ingenuous, and callous person there is. Absolutely, unequivocally, everything out of his mouth or keyboard is a lie. Many of us that knew him actually question his mental health / sanity. He has been dismissed or laid off from every job (that I know of) because of these issues.
Walter's the type of guy who will be listening in to a conversation, and best everyone there (a topper) - except that his claims are laughably ridiculous. These are actual examples that I've summarized from memory (disclaimer: it's not verbatim). I wish I was making these up -
Example 1:
"I was finally able to lift 225 lbs on the bench!!"
Walter butts in: "Hah! I can lift 500lb!"
"Can you show us some time?"
Walter: "I don't like to show off, so no. Never."
Example 2:
"Yeah guys I'm leaving for Vegas tomorrow, it's going to take me 4 hours or so to get there (275 miles) so I'm going to leave a little early."
Walter butts in: "Last time I went, I got there in 1hr in my Lotus"
"Hmm, Walter, there's many things wrong with that statement. You got there from here in 1hr?"
Walter: "Yup. In my Lotus."
"Walter, I won't go into the physical impossibility of this as it speaks for itself. You know, like having to hit speeds over 500MPH to be able to average a speed of 275MPH. But forget that, let's talk about this thing about your Lotus. You don't have a Lotus. You have a 1988 Toyota MR2 with a spoiler and incomplete body kit (this is around 2005). If you did have a Lotus, you'd know that the whole point of Lotus is handling and NOT speed, and you'd know not to make such a comment."
Walter visibly disturbed by this comment: "No, I mean before I moved here."
"But, you moved to California from Ireland... WTF are you talking about??"
(Walter pulls his cell phone out of his pocket and steps away even though his cell phone never rang or buzzed)
I know I'm just some random dude on the internet and all of you are under no obligation to believe any of this, but as this fraudster is exposed for what he is in the coming days by more reputable sources, these stories will seem more believable.
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You're absolutely dead on! I've known Walter since his days at Capital and he's the biggest bs'r I've known..
He also claims to have a $500k Lambo that looks like a put together piece of crap from a bunch of sh*t from the junk yard.
The fact that others have caught on to his 'embellishments' and are calling him out, make me smile! I hate the f*ng prick.
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I was his technical interviewer when he was a candidate for an open QA position at a major financial firm. He told me in the interview that he had interviewed with Bill Gates to be his Chief Software Engineer for 1.5 million a year salary, but he (Walter) turned Bill down because the position was too restrictive as to intellectual property rights.
This from a guy applying for a 80K QA position. I reported that he knew enough about QA but he was a head case and I recommended that he not be hired. I was overruled by the hiring manager.
Both she and Walter were laid off a while later.
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#genius no doubt
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CBS don't care?
No idea how they're going to run a whole season on a guy who well done nothing lol.
He aids the US government but can't build a website? How about his youtube videos being in 240p!!
I have no doubts he scammed a couple of millions from people who 'invested' with him but didn't pursue legal action thinking it was 'lost' in the market.
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Doesn't he have his own domain name?
And obviously, if he's such a programming genius, why is his website crap? And why don't the pages end in a programming language, such as asp, aspx, or even php?
Or are these two ideas not part of the "413 technologies" that his team specializes in?
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"why don't the pages end in a programming language, such as asp, aspx, or even php? "
This means nothing. There is literally no reason why pages have to have such suffixes no matter what language is used for them. In fact, when I see them, it makes me think of the site as being less professional, not more.
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Oh, the irony of this statement. Everything about Walter O'Brien "Scorpion" is just a half-assed PR job. Just wait and see!
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Walter-Ego
Thanks for saving me an hour a week and TiVo space.
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What is a genius?
It means nothing much really unless you are actually effective in your life.
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But a shockingly high percentage are, indeed, "insanely smart" -- as the link between insanity and intelligence is well documented.
The "mad scientist" stereotype is more than just myth, with psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia and manic-depression afflicting a disproportionally large number of the highly creative and intelligent people that we tend to think of as geniuses of one sort or another.
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So, where's the follow-up?
Can't wait to see the next piece on Walter O'Brien being called out!
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Re: So, where's the follow-up?
Stay tuned... working on something. :)
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Because if they slowed the plane below 50 mph it would explode.
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Not at all, this time you can spell his name without stuttering!
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IQ tests don't prove how "intelligent" you are...
Yes, there is often (but not always) some correlation between a high score on an IQ test and some easily-demonstrable proof of knowledge attainment and/or recall of facts and/or mathematical/linguistic ability and/or general "connection spotting" skills (rarely all of those in a single individual though it has been reported there are some people who are spectacularly adept in all these areas).
But in my personal experience with many people who score highly on IQ tests (I'm an IT/Sci-Fi/quiz geek and so are lots of my friends/colleagues/associates/acquaintances from the past 30 years, many of whom allegedly score 150+ on IQ tests) and from my extensive reading on this subject over the past 30+ years, it appears to me that in many cases (impossible (for me at least at the current time) to quantify precisely since nobody has ever published (which probably means there's never been) a long-term, repeated study on a large enough scale to provide figures which could reasonably be considered truly meaningful) it simply cannot be shown reliably that a person who scores 170 on an IQ test is significantly smarter than a person who ONLY scores 140, though of course in many cases it may be possible to demonstrate that they're vastly more capable/knowledgeable in one or more specific areas.
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Best article and comments ever!
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can we just call it fiction and enjoy the show?
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Complete Shit
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First time on the internet?
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HIS TRACTATUS. BEFORE THERE IS A RASH OF ARGUMENTs, IT HAS TO BE REMEMBERED THE STARTING PLACE IS ALWAYS THE SAME PLACE.
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LOL NO
Call him 'Scorp.' His dog is O'Brian.
> HE HAS STARTED US THINKING ABOUT THINKING
He didn't start anything. Mike Masnick wrote the article and he definitely started some reality fact checks.
> IT HAS TO BE REMEMBERED
No. No, it doesn't. When making up shit on the Internet and you're wrong it doesn't create a rule for everyone else.
> THE STARTING PLACE IS ALWAYS THE SAME PLACE.
Time to go back to therapy.
I find discussing things with disconnected individuals just not very fun. It gives me no joy; they think we're having a conversation; in reality (the real reality, not the one in the disconnected person's mind) there will never be a meeting of the minds.
I wish you well. Hit caps-lock once to return to lower-case.
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With the exception of Mike Masnick, no journalist is willing to call b.s.
He keeps telling crazy unverifiable lies and the journalists simply nod and print his baloney without question.
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The story is getting some attention...
Slashdot
Cnet
(Techdirt, and Reddit already mentioned here)
It's a start.
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get a grip
So again get a grip let this be a show with acting & not a stupid reality show, depicting supposed real life bullshit!!
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Re: get a grip
No one here, or over on the follow up article, is talking about the quality of the T.V. show.
We're talking about a charlatan who has lied to the world about serious issues.
e.g. Saying his software was used to kill 2600 people in the gulf war. See his interview at techmanity. And there is a plethora more.
You are either trolling, or part of CBS propaganda team trying to deflect from Walter O'Brien's made up life.
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I think it's more likely she completely missed the point of the article.
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Liberty Valance anyone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=363ZAmQEA84
Side note: My son, who has Aspie's, not only loves the show but emotionally requested that we watch the first episode together. He wanted to show me how hard it is for him to understand/communicate with "the normals". Ultimately, I could give a s*** if Hollywood or O'Brien "gets away with it." A) It's what they do, B) the legend has merit in my world.
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Inconsistancies in your article
Look, I get that you are into technology. I get that if Walter O'Brien is a fake, you want to expose him. Everyone would. However, doing so by misrepresenting evidence is actionable (libel), and kinda just makes you a douche. Do more investigation, write another article with real facts, actual verifiable research, and I will be glad to read it. Otherwise, gonna have to send you to jelly school.
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Re: Inconsistancies in your article
First, that site is, in fact, still on the web, that's how it was found. Second, he claimed that by 2002 it was a massive business that had been around since 1988. I know what websites of similar businesses looked like in 2002 -- and it wasn't like that. Third, our website in 2002 looked like this: https://web.archive.org/web/20020326145922/http://techdirt.com/ And we were a 1 man operation at the time. The business side looked like this: https://web.archive.org/web/20020802135719/http://www.techdirt.com/ci/ I'd argue that both are a hell of a lot more professional than Walter's at that age, but we weren't pretending to be a giant multibillion dollar business built on saving the world. Fourth, we do discuss his current website and it's a joke. It's all meaningless buzzwords and empty content.
#2. The letter from Steven Messino. Have you, or anyone ever tried to contact him to see if the letter was fake? You seem to enjoy implying that it is
I don't think the letter is fake. I think Walter is ridiculous in pretending that Messino is the founder of Sun Microsystems. He's not. He joined many years after the company was founded, long after the company was public, and he was a middle-level manager. It just shows Walter's exaggerating (extremely).
#3. If the guy exaggerated who gives a crap? He was a computer programmer looking for a job. Tell me you didn't exaggerate on your resume to make yourself look better.
Yes. But that's not what he's doing now. Now he's claiming to be the 4th smartest man in the world, who has saved countless lives, stopped wars, caught terrorists and the like -- and he's asking people to give him money. Lots of it. Don't you think it's worth exploring the details of whether or not he's an honest individual? If he was still a young 20-something looking for a job, you'd have a point. But he's not.
Or throughout this entire article, for that matter.
Feel free to point out anything we actually got wrong.
However, doing so by misrepresenting evidence is actionable (libel), and kinda just makes you a douche.
Would you like me to school you on defamation law, as well? Because you're wrong.
Do more investigation, write another article with real facts, actual verifiable research, and I will be glad to read it.
Here you go: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141004/07211128727/mythical-almost-certainly-made-up-legend-walt er-obrien-continues-to-grow.shtml
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Inconsistancies[sic]
Look, I get it, you want to be clever.
Instead you're illiterate, rambling, nonsensical, make claims offering nothing to support them, and in all other ways show yourself to be a moron.
It's ok to be a moron. Just don't expect to convince anyone that everyone else is wrong.
Cheers and all that, or whatever you morons sign your letters with when you're in RealityLand™.
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Scorpian
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Go you!
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Illiterate non-apology
You are wrong.
Next time you feel like opining off-topic and spewing on a public forum, knowing you're wrong in doing so, and pretending it's ok because your narcissistic attitude of "not caring about others' opinions" somehow makes that right...
Don't.
just don't.
Now go slink off into the sewer from whence you came.
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P.S. If any of the words I used upset you, or triggered you, or micro-triggered you, just read them again.
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It's not about the show
What the point of the article you didn't read is is that it is being hyped as TRUE and the news critters from that same network are hyping him up as TRUE and he's using his fame from these false praises to drum up business for his FAKE company.
Names left out to give them less exposure.
I'm sorry if it's TLDR to read the article, but when you go to the effort to comment on it, at least have the decency to know what you're commenting on. And no, it's not "the last five shiny words that got my attention", it's the whole article.
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IDK
So whoever wrote this is full of crap!
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WOB Email Addresses...
http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/dustin-cook/928058672
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scorpion
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Re: scorpion
This article is about Walter O'Brien. This article is NOT about a television show.
This article shows theultiple lies told by Walter O'Brien. Walter O'Brien is attempting to use this false information to sell products. http://www.scorpioncomputerservices.com/the_founder.html
This article does exactly what it should, digging (and it didn't even take a ton of research) into the claims made by this individual on his own web site.
Clearly, the only reason you are reading this is because you saw the guys name and got excited. Feel free to read all of the coents, some of them from former coworkers of his. Then you may understand why the article was written.
Feel free to complain about my method of reply as well.
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I apologize for accidentally stumbling on this article and incurring the wrath of the truly haunted souls who reside in this space!
What is the obsession you guys have about correcting other people's views about this article? Like it or not, IT IS ABOUT THE TV SHOW! If it weren't for the TV show no one would be reading this article in the first place.
What you odd folk don't seem to get is, several of us are saying that we don't really care about O'Brien personally or how he is milking the publicity from this show. It doesn't matter. If people are taken in by him, that's on them.
I don't usually make comments or get into discussions with people on the Internet. This particular article prompted a comment because it seemed to me that the writer and a lot of the commentators were caught up in a really worthless discussion. Now it seems I too have joined up with a bunch of pathetic people who really need to find something useful to do with their time! My bad.
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That depends on what you mean by "about". If you mean that it includes some mention of the TV show, then yes, that is true. If you mean that the main topic of the article is the show, then no. You may have even noticed that the headline doesn't mention the show.
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That is simply not true, Bill. Techdirt ran a couple of articles about a guy who makes the claim he invented email and that guy doesn't have a TV show.
As has been repeated, ad nauseam, in the article itself and in the comment sections - it's not about the show, it's about a real life person lying about their real life credentials and the achievements of a real life company.
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Sadness
I have friends with challenged children.
They can't read.
Like you.
It's not about whether fictional shows are entertaining. It's whether real people pretend this is real and then try to have real careers based on that fictional.
Fictional shows are great. Let them say what they will.
Trying to use those to pretend this IDIOT is either a genius (he's not) or help his career (he's an IDIOT) or hire him (he's an IDIOT) or help him out...
That's retarded. Oops. I used the R-word. Sorry, Bill, you're retarded.
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Re: Sadness
I am astonished by your comments on my commentary. You call me retarded. You call other people names in this thread. You criticize people left and right. You are an angry soul! You need to do something with your life rather than spending time arguing with strangers on the Internet.
You have some unresolved issues that you need to get help with. Clearly you need to call attention to yourself and want people to think you are smart. But the way you are doing it doesn't accomplish that. Instead you are coming across as belligerent and unintelligent (which you are!).
Get some help.
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LOL
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Hey Walter, you misspelled your last name.
Best check that IQ again... this time verifying both digits.
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Apologies
I understand you presume to tell Techdirt writers, editors, and readers what appropriate topics are and that this doesn't fit the Bill Standard. Looks like all the other commenters disagree.
"I don't usually make comments or get into discussions..."
Better to be thought an ass than open your mouth and be proven one.
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Re: Apologies
Apparently you have not read my response to you personally that was sent on October 21 at 5:59pm.
You need help sir and quickly. Clearly you have some anger management issues that need attention immediately. If you don't, you are likely to become a danger to yourself and others.
I suspect that most of your family and friends are concerned about this issue. I also suspect that you are already alienated from some of them.
It is not my intention to be hurtful, just helpful.
In the meantime, I need to say good-bye to this very strange group of people. There are now even more odd fellows taking me on as if I were attacking Abraham Lincoln or motherhood! The problem is that you are all so myopic in your perception of things, you do not comprehend what you are reading.
I actually do have a real life and I will get back to it.
It's been a hoot!
Bill
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Ummm, you are one the giving armchair psychiatric diagnoses to someone you've never met across the internet, yet we are the "strange" ones. OK, whatever.
There are now even more odd fellows taking me on as if I were attacking Abraham Lincoln or motherhood!
Nope, not taking you on, just correcting your ill-conceived misconceptions.
The problem is that you are all so myopic in your perception of things, you do not comprehend what you are reading.
You the one who thinks this entire article and all the comments are about the TV show, when in reality it's not at all and we are ones with reading comprehension problems? Okie dokey, Bill, got it.
I actually do have a real life and I will get back to it.
So do I, Bill, I have a wife, kids, grandkids, a house and a job. Not really sure what that has to do with anything though.
It's been a hoot!
Not really, but have a nice life anyways. :)
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Sure, but then they'd have to come up with some other reason to drive a Ferrari convertible under a jetliner.
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From me or them he's a stand up guy WHO WANTS TO DO GOOD. I WONT BE COMMENTING AGAIN ON HERE I WOULDNT GIVE YOUR SITE THE TIME OF DAY. ID BACK OFF NOW AND GET YOURSELVES A LIFE. PS I HATE BEGRUDGERY
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Literacy is a lost art
It's fair is that this isn't Walter's web page so nobody has to wait for his say so to write about him. If you were in his class in school or he in yours, clearly his "genius" couldn't possibly include high-school level English writing. It also lacks understanding of fairness, right to free speech, and not being a douche on the Internet.
Ah, my congratulations for locating the lit-up button labeled "Caps Lock" and having the wherewithal to press it. No, you have no friends who's[sic] companies were helped by Walter. Mostly because you have no friends that own companies, and secondly because Walter is a scam. Occam's Razor and all that...
Yes, that begrudgery is a horrible horrible business. Got it once while in the bush. Fortunately some ointment makes it all go away, just like you. (Note: for it to be begrudgery, the moron being discussed must actually have an enviable success... and that's not the case with Dear Ol' Lying Walter.)
As for "ID[sic] BACK OFF NOW" I suggest that you do, in fact, back off now. All the way off the nearest cliff. You've already fallen far off the cliff of literacy or making yourself understood [to be anything other than a troll jerk].
In case you think I'm mot serious, I mot certainly am.
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What I'd love to know
OK, let Mr stop talking about the show before I get another nutjob fired up.
Guy is a douche. Heard him
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obsessed much?
You've spent 4 weeks of your life on an Internet forum complaining about a guy with a show on CBS.
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I find all the comments on this page..
This world is fucked.
Sincerely,
If You Complain, Don't Condone ANYTHING ELSE.
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I find all the comments on this page hell-bent on defending the show to be quite sad, because honestly, it's pathetic to watch as these people are incapable of understanding what an article is about. Oops, I wasn't supposed to reply.
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Now, everyone... You are not allowed to state that the logic used in the show is flawed. That makes you a horrible human being. You should ensure you are going outside and spending time with your famioies instead of spending five minutes a day writing responses to inane statements.
I wish I didn't have this dysfunction that makes me feel the need to see accurate information. I'll begin accepting incorrect beliefs and add some new Facebook friends.
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I didn't tell you not to, so I guess it's fair game. I'm going to go be well-rounded now.
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"Why don't you all get a life"
People who think Walter is deluded are not in need of a life.
Pretty simple. Oh and I love the free psycho analysis.[sic]
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Oh.. Wait.. Let me see if this works...
If you see this message, you must post this article to your Facebook account five times in five days or you will die in some as yet decided naaty accident.
There. This thread is officially dead.
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Interesting article
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VPNs make circuits have bigger bandwidth capacities
1.544Mbps (1.536Mbps for transport) would not have sufficed. So we brought up an L2 VPN and cross-scripted side-vector downloads to get the data to the doctor stat. That guy lived. The data got to our spooks. That's how I roll. Scorpion.
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Now that that's been covered ...
I Walter O'Brien approve this article.
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Get over it
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Scorpion did the same thing, basically.
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Reading comprehension lacking or an insane desire to justify the show?
If any of that is confusing or baffling, I recommend actually reading the story. That should clarify everything nicely.
best
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Walter OBrien
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You've spent 4 weeks of your life on an Internet forum complaining about a guy with a show on CBS.
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Enthernet cable
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legs
I think I see why. I just Googled "Walter O'Brien" & "scorpion" and this Techdirt page is the third site listed.
Though personally I prefer the other page's title, "The Mythical And Almost Certainly Made Up 'Legend' Of Walter O'Brien Continues To Grow" -- even if the "almost" part is provably untrue.
Does anyone think there's any chance that this pathological liar will ever come clean and admit it was all a gigantic fraud?
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So easy to explain and yet it seems beyond comprehension.
This comment thread is about the article, not about me.
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Quick summary for the TL;DR crowd: Read the article up top!
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Walter O'Brian
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No it's not a television show
No it's not.
> Do you disect[sic]...
No nobody does.
> ....also[sic
No not that either.
> interest in the SHOW[sic]!!!
Seriously learn to write past a third-grade level.
> If people didn't like to suspend reality...
Honestly if you really mean suspension of disbelief you should focus your illiterate self on that.
Between Walter "I'm an idiot" Scorpion OBrien and you this is just ridiculous.
Nobody gives a rat's ass about the show. Only idiots have read this far and didn't quite catch that. It's about Walter being a lying scumbag make believe genius. He's exactly that. A make believe genius.
It's ok. The more people keep making this a current story the more it will continue. I can't wait for another of Walter's friends to chime in and ask why I still care (because the truth wants to be set free, and it shall be, so there you go).
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Mom had pride.
In my very humble opinion Walter O'Brian is a fraud, a charalatan, an idiot, and trades on a reputation he neither owns, deserves, earned, nor merits. As I said earlier, I love that trolls like you continue this "discussion." It only leads to trending stories about the NOT-A-GENIUS Walter O'Brian continuing to top the google charts.
And it makes techdirt advertising money. About the only way this would be any more delicious is if the fraud himself showed up sceaming "I am not stupid!!! I'm a genius, I am! Mom told me when I was seven."
Sadly, mom lied.
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Keep the ball in the air
http://www.fastcocreate.com/3036897/hackers-vs-scorpion-walter-obrien-responds-to-scrutiny-of- real-life-claims-fueling-tvs-scorp
*sucks on a lollypop*
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Apologies
Pax,
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Eccentric genius does not make IT work, busting a sweat and working together does
Some people may have a predisposition toward higher achievement in specific fields but there is nothing in History to point to genius as having any social or economic value. Smart is as smart does: even great scientific breakthroughs were and still are a product more of dozens or even thousands of people working together rather than individual achievement. Whenever an honest high achiever gets an award in public the first words out of their mouth is "I would like to thank all the people who made this possible but we do not have the time tonight to list them all."
I have an older sister and little brother now fully grown with their own families who made a penny or two in IT and they are bright but their fortunes were made through aeons of relentlessly cheerful hard work and through working with others (both started out in the Eighties working for H. Ross Perot's EDS and are now independent consultants).
It is baffling to me why the focus is on an Irish personality as opposed to American. My guess is that in the phone book there are squillions of Walter O'Briens so it makes life easier for the studio legal section as people can and do sue if they do not like how their names are used in movies and TV. Trinity College in Dublin has a wonderful IT incubator but compared to any "cowtown" university in the USA it is no great shakes.
I think the show looks like a complete bore along the lines of the old show McGiver or how ever it was spelled but TV shows are there to sell soap flakes, beer, cars and toys at Xmas.
Most firms concerned with solving critical Federal IT issues are like Data Solutions and Technology Inc. in Charlottesville, Va. & elsewhere.
http://dstincorporated.com/
These types of firms are unerringly stable, non-eccentric, pleasant to work with even under stress, and not given to grandstanding or hunting for a magic bullet. Their main concern is on doing things right the first time.
I do not know why the focus is not on how the business of hacking and coding is actually done as I know a few next-to-the-metal coders and they are brilliant as a rule though again genius is not the word which is relevant but rather thoughtful and hard-working.
My work is in construction cost estimating for power plant projects and I also do production line economics for machined metal parts for Federal contractors but small family owned businesses are my focus rather than going after the big fish. IT is a bit far afield for me but it does not appear to be a haven for eccentrics as the show seems to present itself as being.
Everyone I know in the IT field is solid as a rock in their personal lives as much as is possible today. I do not think it is fair nor accurate to portray them as being off-the-wall.
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Met Scorpion's people today
AMEN to that!!!
I stopped at a traffic light earlier and a guy came over to wipe my window. I could tell from his shirt that he was a part of the Scorpions team.
There were a lot of cars idling and some driving so it was hard to hear but this is how the conversation appeared to me:
I asked him how it was to work with them - "How do you like Scorpion?"
He told me "Scorpion's in Iraq, Man!" He seemed awfully excited about that.
I said "Is he working out there?"
"Yeah working out here!"
I asked if he liked his job "Do you love your work?"
"Yes I would love to work!"
The light having turned, I said goodbye and drove away. He must have felt his cover was blown because later when I went through the same intersection, he wasn't there.
Scorpions rock, man.
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If you are bullied for being a smug a hole, you deserve it. If you think the ability to think makes you better than other people, you are the problem.
Anyway, this entire article is about the man not the show. He is a liar and a fraud. Walter OBrien is clearly no smarter than me. Too bad I didn't send an email to a producer. Guess I should have done the wrong thing.
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I don't care if his IQ is 197 or not. I can tell you he's smart enough to get all of you to talk about him and the TV show that he makes money on for FREE!
Wake up people! Yes he lied. Yes the TV show is not based on a true story. Yes his bank account gets bigger the more "research" you all do to debunk his story. He is a "genius" and you all help him prove it every time he cashes a check!
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If you were to read the comments above, you'd notice the vast majority are people who have already watched the show. Many stopped after realizing the incredibly insulting (to those with a technological bent) scenarios being presented.
So, no. I'm not concerned that this article exists. Perhaps you will join us in providing facts to the general population.
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That's just fine
Walter O'Brien's lies is a different topic. That's getting lots of press. That shouldn't hurt the show. If it hurts Walter's ability to con clients, that's a public service.
Now I have to go dangle an Ethernet cord from my boat into the ocean to save self-booting laser sharks.
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That said... Reddit has multiple people discussing this particuoar episode and though they don't even bother asking if the method of blood cycling would work, I can help with this point...
If one receives merely a single bubble of air into their veins they die. It happens often enough. This this episode is not believable.
However, though you do have questions about the show and I am happy to refute items that are obviously falsified, please do keep in mind that the article above is about the man, not the show.
You did prove my point that folks come here after seeing the show, so I do appreciate that. If you wanted to know about the man the show is supposed to be based upon, please do read the article above.
It is definitely one thing to watch the show for what it is, a TV show. No argument there. To add the layer of "truth" is sort of like saying all those shows on TruTV aren't setups. Know the show is not reality and we can all high five over it.
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This article is about that fraud, Walter O'Brien, and how he lies about his past to get clients. The TV show is being discussed on TVGuide.COM or People or some such.
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SO SORRY, THAT WAS MINE
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Also i bet your just jelous of him i could just tell by your sentence construction that your IQ is nowhere near his, so please do me a favor and shut the fuck up, and the day you achieve something that is willing of making a show about then and only then can you talk shit. Thank you
yours sincerely, Fuck Off
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Scorp supports show their IQs
That being said I'm so jelous[sic] about anything you say that I'm willing of[sic] making a show about then[sic] bwahahahahaha!
Humor was missing from this discussion of the fact that Walter O'Brien is a fraud. Thank you for keeping the discussion alive.
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Of course all besides the point. We've tried and tried to make sense but it seems you lack it.
One more time people. This is not about some TV show. If you read the article, hard is may be to read, you will see it is about the human being. It is in everyone's best interest to know true things about others. TV shows come and go and let's face it, no one knows how much he makes off the show, if anything.
He doesn't write the shows and he clearly doesn't know much about how tech works. There is no jealousy to be had. Just facts. If you don't like facts why did you look up a story about him? Oh. Hm. Caught in your own pointless web.
Merry Christmas to you too!
Oh and thank you for keeping this article at the top of Google searches. People are learning.
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That said, I was thanking you for making my point to another poster who indicated that our discussion on this thread would help the shows ratings. You helped me make my point to them by stating that you came here after watching the show.
That said, you have consistently contradicted yourself. You said,
"I don't care if Walter O'Brien is a fraud or not"
"I don't really care about Walter O'Brien, I just wanted to find out who Walter O'Brien was"
" this is how I ended up here, trying to learn about the man"
So which is it?
You initially asked if the tubing thing was possible, which is a TV Walter O'Brien, question, not a real Walter O'Brien question.
Thus, you are asking that question on the wrong web page. Much like going to food networks site and asking for the differences between SQL Server and Teradata.
Now, I will do you a kindness and provide you with links to articles that have nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand.
http://m.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/recycling_a_patients_lost_blood_during_surgery _better_than_using_banked_blood
http://www.englewoodhospital.com/ms_bloodless_tt_b.asp
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Einstien's I.Q.
One of Einstein's close personal friends --and I forget his name-- was president of the American Philosophical Society and a vigorous critic of I.Q. tests. This should be easy to find in a biography.
So when Einstein did take an I.Q. test, he deliberately marked incorrect answers and his "score" came out at about 80.
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This article is NOT ABOUT THE SHOW.
Nobody is discussing THE SHOW.
So "the opening claim" has nothing to do with Walter O'Brien and is just whatever passes for television these days.
NOBODY cares about THE SHOW here. The article is about the man.
Let me know if you missed that.
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The article is still not about the show...
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The zipper on the monster costume
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This has been a pretty glaring issue and for some reason folks come to this board and defend the show because it's just a show. He is quite the abysmal human being and I just don't know whether the network people don't know or don't care.
At some point we have to start expecting "reality" to be just that. The blurring of lines just gives me the heebees!
I'm off to watch something more believable - Doctor Who. :-)
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Whether they know or not, I'm pretty sure they don't care.
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favorite, a show, although, ahead of its time, A TV SHOW, that is what Scorpion is, I like it, a lot of people do, believable? Someone should give them some guns already, they put them in these situations that are extremely dangerous with NO weapons, that pisses me off, but it is a TV SHOW.........
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If he did not have a TV show you would likely never have read this article. But if he made these claims as part of a conference, I bet the article would still have been written. Presumably you enjoy the show. Go watch it. No one cares.
Think of it another way. Gee, Bill Cosby sure looks like he raped some people. I don't remember that episode! Right, because we aren't talking about the TV show. We're talking about real life. Get it? I'm sure you don't.
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This isn't about Bill Cosby, just that poser O'Brien
This article discusses Walter O'Brien -- the fraud. Feel free to keep bringing it to the top of search engine results. It won't change the facts. Walter O'Brien is still a fraud.
Bill Cosby as a fraud is being discussed here: http://popdust.com/2014/11/23/bill-cosby-bullies-football-playero-tears-hypocrite-has-worthless-phd- from-u-mass/
I know it's confusing that "different URLs" lead to "different articles" that discuss "different subjects" but try and pay attention and see if you can grok the concept.
This article is about Walter O'Brien -- the fraud.
Thanks for helping keep it at the top of the search rankings.
Take your Bill Cosby opinion solicitation elsewhere, sweetheart.
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WALTER O'BRIEN, THE FAKE
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Trash
What gives me the right to speak to you as trash? Well I talk to you and you think you're trash so there you go.
I appreciate you want to discuss my childhood (was yours really bad so you think other people's childhoods are important to how they post online) or IQs (you seem obsessed with yours and Walter "the Fraud" Obrien's)... or something?
Let it die? Let it die? Dude, you keep bringing it back to life.
You will bet money? *LOL* You have no money. You're a self-admitted obsessive-compulsive trash-talking loser with no money or IQ or friends -- all things you think are important.
There's nothing killing me or us. It's killing you. Please hurry it up as you're annoying.
"Let it go and I will go...."
No. You will go or you won't go. Nobody cares.
Walter O'Brien is a fraud. He will be no matter what you do.
You're an idiot. If you go you're an idiot who left. If you stay you're an idiot who stayed. Enjoy.
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Walter O'Brien The Fake
Exactly.
"That's why people don't want to talk about that."
Oh but they do.
This article is about Walter O'Brien the fraud. It's not about the TV show. People who want to talk about the TV show should go wherever it's being discussed... TVGUIDE.COM or wherever.
"Stop confusing reality with fantasy"
Again you're back to the show.
Walter O'Brien is a fraud. There's no fantasy there at all except in his head and the heads of the people who employ him.
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You didn't really pay much attention to the article, did you?
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If that's what you got from this article, then you didn't understand it.
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(Ignoring the fact that he has never produced an iota of evidence)
just like the many others that are out there.
(2% of the population. You may be talking to some)
We're just taught that hackers are bad
(Some people are taught this. These people are unaware of what white hats are. They are also not the target audience for this article but thank you for reading with us. We like to add folks to our group)
and that Geniuses are frauds
(I have never heard this. I mean, Einstein was a genius. DaVinci was. Tesla definitely was a tortured one. People may argue that IQ tests don't necessarily capture true genius but that's not fraud)
which is not always the case.
(Rarely is?)
The point is, had he said "I'm a pilot!" And then he has no license and as proof says GE flew missions in Iraq when there is no evidence he was in the army you may wish to be skeptical. Or are you calling everyone who disproves his assertions a liar? Unfortunately must be one or the other.
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Are you referring to the image that was prefaced with: ...which apparently used to be the site for Walter's Scorpion computer Services.?
The link you provided appears, not once, but twice within the body of the article. Not sure what you are trying to prove (or disprove) with your comment.
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That is a very strange definition of genius.
Anonymous Coward, I have seen what he writes, how he talks to people, what he says, he is NO genius,
Anonymous Coward is not a person, it is a label attached to anyone who does not choose some other name for his post. There could be thousands of different people writing as Anonymous Coward.
he did something right to become famous because, HE IS FAMOUS
So everyone who is famous deserves to be famous? Does everyone who is rich deserve to be rich, too?
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I am fascinated by the zeal with which she defends someone she doesn't appear to know for reasons beyond understanding. I mean, if it's her relative, we'd get it. If his claims were rational we'd get it. Had he merely claimed he was really smart and left it at that, I'd understand defending it. Oh well. Some things we will never understand.
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Walter O'Brien The Fake
Walter O'Brien is a phony. He trades on things he's never done to get people to pay him. If I were personally taken advantage of by such a scheme I'd say "fraudulent people suck." That's not mean.
Perhaps though it's just that he's delusional. In that case reporting about it so others can not be sucked into the fraud is also not mean.
In short whether he is your realative[sic] or not, his delusions are discussed. That's not the same as putting down his beliefs.
Of course you read the original article, right?
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I can only assume you're jealous of the company that opened the restaurant and you're bitter because you couldn't keep the franchises afloat yourself. Why are you so jealous of them? They don't have a problem with you. You go on this site and you talk bad about them and they can't even respond to you.
You complain about how others talk on this board, then you write this. Pot -> Kettle "you're black!"
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But now it's all starting to make sense. It looks like Walter O'Brien may be a Scientologist, or at the very least, he hangs out with Scientologists.
http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Sarah_Ehrlich.jpg
Scientology is a most peculiar "religion" because, among other things, adherents are specifically taught detailed lessons about how to argue with critics, and strongly encouraged to "confront and shatter suppression" ("suppression" in Scientology-speak means criticism and doubt)
Anyone who has dealt with Scientologists online before knows that they're very persistent buggers who will always try to distort and divert the subject off-topic rather than address the issues head-on. The Scientology cult even has a major department, the Office of Special Affairs, that is dedicated to fighting these battles.
That's not to say that these deluded defenders of Walter O'Brien are necessarily Scientologists, but it does seem like they're using many of the same tactics.
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Is it possible your inferior intellect isn't capable of perceiving O'Brien's claims for their true accuracy?
Is it possible that your not smart enough to understand that a genius see's the world differently from how you do? Is it possible that this is why the genius wrote his website in a way that you deem unprofessional only because it differs substantially from how a low intelligence average individual would do it "professionally"? Is it possible homeland security existed but hidden from the public until an excuse like 9/11 allowed the U.S. to broadcast its existence and pretend to only now create it as a response? I'm not saying your wrong bc maybe your right but I find it extraordinarily annoying when average people all around me, including you, assume that what they are capable of perceiving must be true and use that flawed perception to ridicule those who surpass their intellect but lack a grasp on meaningless "professional" or "socially acceptable" ways of fitting into this world.
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Port Mike has a low intelligence because the anonymous dude says so.
So, should I ask if 9/11 really happened or if there were two shooters on the moon or if the JFK tape was made by the Nazis to aid the Russians in Ukraine?
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IQ typo
So I think it's a typo.
I think the '1' in 197 was really the side of the box in which the IQ was written.
Oh and using a heart-lung machine to feed oxygen to a drowning boy?
Yeah, right.
Wouldn't a long length of poly tube as a breather do the job.
...but then I'm not a (1)97 IQ genius.
The show is fun, but way too far-fetched.
Can't help noticing the obvious Microsoft product placement.
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There are at least two other factors that make the scenario completely ludicrous before even considering that one.
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The problem here are the annoying presumptions displayed in the show that:
A) being a genius means you know everything about everything. This is something unintelligent people think about smart people.
B) Somewhat related to A), that no one working in the tower knows anything about handling this absurd situation
C) That all communication going into a giantic city is only directed through one central hub, and that things like COWs and COLTs don't exist.
D) That this was delivered as even based on fact, yet no news report of a huge network outage in LA.
E) none of this matters because the actual human being has shown no actual ability to use a computer more effectively than my dead grandmother.
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Tested IQ of 152 - moron
Walter O'Brien uses his fake credentials to get jobs where he fleeces his customers.
The article is about Walter O'Brien, and this has been pointed out so many times it takes a real genius to come along and --again-- talk about the show.
"I have a tested IQ of 152."
No, you do not.
"Documentation available."
Your posting (above) documents the opposite. No further documentation is needed.
The rest of the discussion (about the show, not the man) is offtopic, irrelevant, and does nothing more than continue keeping this thread at the top of google searches for:
Walter O'Brien is a fraud.
"If you show the general public..."
You, sir, are worse than the general public. Not only do you think that the microwave "flashes" 12:00, but you think yourself smarter than the general public for this.
Perhaps you should go get that documentation, and then you and your mommy and your daddy can go ask Mr. Therapist for a big lollypop and a refund.
Rube Goldberg called. Said not to bring up his name ever again when talking about morons.
Best
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Not quite getting the idea
That's discussed in this article.
The TV show is not discussed here. This includes what happens on the show, and stuff like "cable out in front of an aircraft" and other random noise coming out of the mouths of people who didn't bother to read the article.
Really. It's about Walter O'Brien the fraud, not some fictional TV show.
TL;DR? This is not a discussion about the TV show. Never was.
Cheers,
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The article is not about the TV show. The discussion is whatever people want it to be.
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How to register a domain name...
Wikipedia's *very* hotly protective page says he was born in 1975. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_O%27Brien
While we would be proud if 13-year old Walter registered said domain or started said company in 1988, the facts seem to lean in a different direction.
First, the commercial traffic wasn't allowed (by the US Government who had funed the NSFNET) to transit the backbone until 1991. (look for ANSnet in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Internet_eXchange)
1991 is three years later than 1988.
Second, the Internet wasn't available in Ireland until 1992.
Source 1: http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/27222-20-years-of-the-internet-in
Source 2: http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/how-we-brought-the-internet-to-ireland-28960596.html
1992 is four years later than 1988.
So it's fairly unlikely he was on the Internet.
As to whether he started a company at the age of 13, Ireland -- like most western nations -- has an age of majority of 18. https://www.companyformations.ie/company-formations/your-first-company-ireland/
We can rest assured that at 13 Walter was not 18.
The domain name ScorpionComputerServices.com was created in 2000. http://whois.domaintools.com/scorpioncomputerservices.com
2000 is after 1988.
That just leaves the question of what "started a business with a dot-com" name means for a 13-year old kid in a country that wasn't on the Internet, and which he did
- five years before a browser was invented (which is what propelled the proliferation of the Internet)
- five years before commercial traffic was even allowed on the Internet [other than in furtherance of NSFNET goals]
Occam's Razor - the simplest answer is likely correct.
Ehud
/obligatory preempt: No, I am not obsessed with Walter O'Brien. I'm yet another one of the millions of people who voraciously consume information and don't like to spit up pits.
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He must be living backwards. 1500 years ago, his name will be Merlin.
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However, the first dot com was not 1994 lol.
Some examples to point out that's off by a decade:
Domain Name: bbn.com
Creation Date: 1985-04-24T00:00:00-0800
Domain Name: ibm.com
Creation Date: 1986-03-19 00:00:00 -0500
Have a happy day,
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Seeing as how a minor is incapable of signing contracts.
It is literally an impossibility.
Consider why you would trust anything someone says when multiple of their statements have been proven false.
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I think in your haste to prove everyone wrong, you missed actually reading what other people wrote before you.
As in when I wrote entry 268.
But it's ok. Everyone should all read YOUR posts but you can't be bothered to read everyone else's.
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Give it a Rest
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The irony is delicious.
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My niece was reading this techdirt comment thread...
No, your niece wasn't reading the comments on here and said "Uncle George, Uncle George, you need to come butt in and tell these people to give it a rest!"
"WHO CARES?" - the people who read and write. If you don't, keep your opinion to yourself, because those who walk into a forum and say "I don't care about anything you say or read but here's my opinion" are as worthless as flushed shit in a toilet.
"I'm well aware..."
"I take everything..."
"I don't watch..."
"...I can see..."
"I'd never..."
"I'm 56..."
You're all about you.
"So give all your" --
No, YOU give all YOUR suggestions to anyone who cares.
Like your invisible niece.
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Give it a Rest!
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Give it a rest
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I hope it stays on for a very long time...exciting...clean....and fun to watch!
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Walter O'Brien is a fraud
The TV show is of no relevance. Nobody except idiots (see above) watch it, and Walter's friends (see above) who come here to try and nudge the thread into a positive direction about the show.
Bad news, shils. This thread is *still* not about the show, no matter how much THE SHOW SUCKS. It's about Walter O'Brien being a fraud. He still is.
In case I'm not clear, and the thread is beyond your comprehension level for English reading just repeat these words to yourself:
Walter O'Brien is a fraud.
Scorpion is a stupid show.
Nobody should believe a word said by Walter O'Brien or the show.
Hope this gets through that thick empty dried up husk of a coconut you use to filter messages through.
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Walter Obrien
I tried yelling "DIE DIE DIE" at the tv but it did not work... Why did I lose that hour of my life? I guess it is because the show was like a very bad train accident you just can't look away from...
Why in the hell can't they ever get stuff right on shows? They could just hire a real life senior paramedic to get the trauma/medical stuff right. And a computer dude, and a real scientist... and a mechanic... and a cop... The whole thing is so fu..ed ... Oh wait. They have a real live genius on the set! they don't need anything else... They don't need that tub of lard to advise them on how smart people are supposed to act... his all knowing insight on the subject is just a regurgitation of the nerd stereotype and could be substituted by the cast watching big bang theory.
Oh,,, he kind of reminds me of my hero Steven Seagal, another freaking BS ARTIST!!!!! They have the same freaking hair!
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It's ok to be disconnected...
What's fascinating is for a disconnected narcissist you're ably willing to aver "Walter O'Brien doesn't care what your thoughts are on him"...
Do you speak for Walter? Do you read his mind? Do you just "know" how he feels and what he cares about? Did aliens tell you what he cares about and what he doesn't? Do you also speak for those "others"? Are they related to "the others" from Lost!?
"...but you are so much fun to get going." Ah, so you admit being not only a narcissistic sociopath but also an Internet troll.
Hardy har har.
Ehud
P.S. Loved you on The Simpsons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Rvo6mp2L0
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I'd say by now its been made abundantly clear that Walter O'Brien is a fraud of a human being. Any arguments anyone has made were fully addressed by now. As a humanist, I find such humans to be deplorable as they prey upon gullibility and those striving for identity. This paragraph is only regarding the human being. I hope we can all appreciate the difference between a person and a TV character.
As for the TV show, there have been plenty of comments about the show. We MUST remember, the conceit of the show is that it is supposed to be based on real life events. So, as those alleged events apply the real life Mr O'Brien, arguments regarding the validity and accuracy of such events do truly apply to the article. These are arguments doubting the veracity of his real life claims.
A whole entire other argument seems to be occurring between Randi and, so far as I can tell, no one else. This argument regards the entertainment level of the show. Now, the intended audience for a site by name of TechDirt is a segment of the population which appreciates and often works in technology fields. These are the folks who can tell you the difference between Teradat and SQL Server. Java and HTML5. Cat-5 and Coax. For individuals of this ilk, the entertainment level of a tv show necessitates a valid set of technological factors. Much like watching a car movie with a car guy. When you work on the field, you cannot abide inaccuracies in terminology or events. Its the way of the world.If you personally don't care about computer terminology, you can feel free to ignore it. But don't expect others to agree with you just because your viewpoint is such. Its as disrespectful as telling you not not to care about your own interests.
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Walter O'Brien is a fraud
Internet Kooks unite.
He's still a fraud.
"Give it a rest!"
I'm sorry, was there somewhere you saw a button that said "tell everyone else in the world how to act" and you pushed it.
Wrong button, dip.
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You're so cute
Now this rant of yours, Artie Ziff, is great. It uses sentences starting with "I" many times. It promises to focus on what I (me!) write. Lastly it still talks about the show.
Listen, psycho honey. It's not about the TV show. Never has been. Take your meds. Get some good sleep.
"I stopped writing..."
No. You didn't. Sure wish you would. Freedom of speech extends event to disconnected narcissistic aholes.
Best of luck luv,
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"Charlie's Pictures: A WWW page with pictures that Charlie Daly (Delegation Leader Ireland) took at IOI'93."
http://web.archive.org/web/20131024141642/http://www.compapp.dcu.ie/~cdaly/ioi/ioi_pics.html [Archive] lists "Walter O'Brien" on the "Irish team".
... with pictures.
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Man. I wonder how we can tell if they competed.. Hm
http://stats.ioinformatics.org/countries/IRL
Oh holy crap!!!!!!
They didn't compete until 94!
http://stats.ioinformatics.org/people/IRL
And they have every single representative for every year!!!!!!!
Oops.
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It sounds like all you cynics need a little love in your life. And as for his claims and how valid they are is between him and his god. Scorpion has certainly inspired some of my students to pursue science and math with more passion because of Walter O'Brien. And I thank him for that.
If he has helped people in his own way, then good for him. Just leave him the hell alone.....I love the show and I will continue to watch it and enjoy it. And as for all you cynics, get a life!!
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"Get a life"
Dear Marie, your bull in a China shop approach to telling an entire forum of readers and hundreds of comments later to "get a life" is only as tone-deaf as William Shatner at a Star Trek convention.
The article is about the man, not the show. The discussion on this thread (absent illiterate narcissists like yourself who couldn't be bothered to actually read the article) is about the man, not the show.
While I appreciate that in the world of your own mind you can barge bull-in-a-China-shop style into anyone's living room anywhere and tell them what to do, fortunately your right to free expression only subjects you to ridicule here.
So "everyone who disagrees with me is a cynic" and "you all need love" and "leave him the hell alone" and "get a life" are a good way to let us know you're a mistreated bullied small child.
Work on your own failed relationships on your own time and place.
Best,
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If you care to know about the human being, this article is for you. Although it has been mentioned in the article above, I would suggest perusing the reddit AMA he did:
http://i.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2h5c7p/i_am_walter_obrien_the_inspiration_behind_the_cbs/
It is fascinating.
Again, we could care less about the TV show. I don't watch the Kardashians or American Idol, nor do I care to discuss the shows. The same goes for Scorpion the show. I really have a hard time understanding the continued desire to discuss the show on a non-show related article. But it does help with finding this article on searches so that's good.
FYI, Ted Stevens from CNET has informed me that Walter O'Brien is no longer allowed for interviews. Good luck trying to get a hold of him.
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I may be wrong, but as the human brain evolves and as our psychology skills improve we have changed, adjusted and updated the IQ tests we use. So a test taken today, vs. a test taken 50+ years ago, are not comparable, even if they number scale is the same. A 160 on a test given in say, the 1930's and a 160 in a test from the 1970's or 80's are not the same. And comparing a 160 from pre-1950 to a 197 post 1970, are false equivalencies.
This also doesn't factor in the fact the IQ scores (using the what I will call traditional numbers), show that the human IQ is increasing noticeably with each generation.
So basically, like inflation in reverse, a 197 now, is not worth as much as it was 50 or so years ago.
And lastly, in some cases the tests and tools used to measure IQ, by current science have abandoned the objective # score system altogether as it is not really relevant. Many tests have switched over to a percentile system, placing IQ in a scale relative to the test base. So people for example, are scored in the 90 percentile of scores or expected scores in the test series. Meaning you have a higher potential intelligence score (does not mean you are actually smarter), than 89% of the other scores measured by the same test series. If one were to convert that to a flat score, the highest would be 100.
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So I suppose the one thing My O'Brien has done productively is provided an opportunity for you and I to discuss the inherent difficulty in stating statistically who is intelligent. No matter how you slice it, I put DaVinci at the top of my ladder. Einstein and Tesla battle it out. Though Nikola wins in the end. There you go.
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Oh Walter
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Real IT workers..
Holes in the story..
1. Drives cannot be destroyed by GM's brand of Door speakers, the magnets are not big enough to destroy a disk drive, unless said disk drive is one of the original drives from the early 90's or 80's, which is fine, but then, those drives did not work in BLADE based servers, of that generation in that "warehouse".
2. You can't T-bone a Dodge truck in a Tahoe, at 100+ MPH and get out and make a call, and be fine.. No blood, no pain, no nothing.. right..
3. At 200MPH in a Ferrari, under a plane, if you tried to stand up, you would be instantly sucked out of the car, and the Cat5 Cable would not drop down without being blown back..
Aside from just the common sense,
why wouldn't you just simply pull the network plug?
You then wouldn't get your backup, and you could use a USB or cross over cable to pull the data.. Not having to transport the drive at all..
The story had potential, but there is no way that is a genius computer engineer..
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It's not about the TV show
The article is about Walter O'Brien, the MAN. There is no discussion here about the TV show or its contents. It may be good or bad, realistic or not, futuristic or modern, but whatever it is IT IS NOT THE SUBJECT OF THE ARTICLE.
We do not care about "holes in the story OF THE TV PLOT" only holes in the story that Walter O'Brien tells.
It's very narcissistic to come into a forum and without reading any of it -- or the original article -- plop down a steaming nugget of soft opinion on the show plot. Really don't do that in other people's living rooms. Leave your shit in your own outhouse.
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Computer Security Genius about the human body but
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Walter O'Brien Is a fraud
Walter O'Brien is a fraud. He has nothing to do with Adam (Baldwin or otherwise, although Baldwin is impressive!) This discussion is not about the TV show or the nonexistent scorpio character so guess-what... there is no such in this world.
Sometimes you have to take the head out of the sand to see the only sightless moron you're fighting... is you.
Best to you,
Ehud
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Walter O'Brien Is a fraud
This article is not about the show.
It has nothing to do with licensing, some idiot's brain being on high (or being high), homeland "security" arresting him, or other make believe things.
If you're wanting to discuss the TV show, there are plenty of make believe places to go do that. This is not one of them.
The article is about the fraud of a man, not the show. He doesn't work with other countries to solve anything. He's a fraud. I know it's difficult to comprehend... here's the big reveal... READ THE ARTICLE UP AT THE TOP!
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Transparent to low-IQ people!
"He's completely transparent to anyone with even a low IQ."
He's so transparent then that when he looks in the mirror, he doesn't see himself.
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THIS ARTICLE IS ALL ABOUT JEALOUSY
Regards,
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RE: THIS ARTICLE IS ALL ABOUT JEALOUSY
Fortunately, (you finger slipped, dear, and you commented on the Walter O'Brien is a Fraud article) is all about Walter O'Brien the myth and how he's a fraud and a charlatan.
Press the caps-lock key once to release it, kiss mommy and Uncle DeJur good night, and dream of unicorns, manticores, geniuses on TV, and other mythical beings.
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Too much fun for Wlater O'Brien the fraud
Then there are those who want to denigrate the posters on this forum. We have too much time. We're obsessed. We are socially inept. Except, of course, that by posting on this forum that same denigration applies to the poster.
Walter O'Brien is a fraud. His company is built on selling his fraudulent reputation. In an alternate world hypothetically speaking if he had died of a bad mosquito bite at birth, NOTHING would be safer, or better, except the TV show might have been affected. Good thing we're not talking about that, right?
Thank you, Anonymous Coward. Both your first name and last name are 100% correct. You are a coward. For you will not put your lackluster reputation behind your brilliant twit:
> Wow [comma missing] someone has way too much time on their hands! Um [fragment]
Fortunately this shall not detract from the ultimate thread on how Walter O'Brien is a fraud. I hear that's now trending on google. In my opinion honesty is a good thing.
Ehud Gavron
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I applaud what you had to say, I am not really sure about any gifts or what is factual or not, but everything else you had to say. However, be prepared to be insulted. Please do not take it to heart. The first line as always will be, Walter O'Brian is a fraud (we get it) and then it will go on to insult you personally, just take it from who it comes from, someone you don't know, who for all you know works at McDonald's, NOT that it is a bad thing, I believe you need a college education now and they make a lot of money, and his big vocabulary, well, that is not difficult when you are on the web. Thank you for your letter, can't wait for the show to start, I miss him and everyone else. Have a wonderful day
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Reading the article helps!
Walter O'Brien is a fraud. You can't help but get that understanding from reading the article.
The article is not about the show. Like the show, hate the show, it's still not about the show.
There are many many forums to discuss the show. This is not one. Coming here to discuss the show is like overhearing someone saying "the parm is cheesy" and walking right to their dinner table, plopping your fat ass down, and saying "I love to play parcheesi!" and no matter how much they try and be polite and explain that no, we're just eating really cheesy parm you insist on staying, talking about parcheesi, and calling them rude for not listening to you.
Etiquette is important, and being tone-deaf to the dozens of people who have said "this is not about the show" reflects well on this forum that censors noone and on those who show courtesy and civility in the face of blatant disregard for all manners.
I close by adding one more thing. The article at the top (you *did* read it, right?) is about Walter O'Brien being a fraud. It is now about who YOU are or how old you are nor is it about me.
You shall not pass -- Gandalf
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READING THE ARTICLE HELPS!!!!
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Well that was fun...
Havent watched the show as was instantly skeptical when it was advertised here as 'Based on the true exploits of Walter O'Brien' then showed scenes of a geek driving a Ferrari behind a plane...... everything about that first ad i saw turned me off the show entirely.
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well that was fun........
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SCORPION....................
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WOW!!!!
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FINALLY, he kissed her....... although I was not thrilled with last nights show, I didn't see that coming, Walter knew what happened in the hospital, glad the show is back.
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What do I think
But walter is a smart man and he did got rich . But yet I'm more concerned with Hollywood aims of the show and I think they're manipulating the way that people think especially when it goes to American military .even if it doesn't seem to be mentioned ,most of the shows nowadays are defending the carelessness of American military soldiers and commanders.
they're throwing a political sentence almost every episode of every good show to let people sympathise with militarie's unforgivable massive killer mistakes.
my English language does not help me to tell you exactly what I think but smart people will figure it out.
thanks.
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Since there have been repeated attempts by multiple bloggers to dig into information only tocbe blocked, and with mainstream news sources refusing to do their own research, I am led to wonder what would cause such a thing.
Could it be that there is a concerted effort to utilize a completely false character and claim him as real for the purposes of building up faith in the executive officers in our country? The stories are all unbelieveably false, and one need consider that as early as the first episode, one would be able to confirm or deny the instance of a large-scale network outage and re-routing of planes across one of the largest cities in the world. See, this is a true commentary on the real Walter O'Brien and his role in something quite nefarious. Fits perfectly within the confines of the article.
Thank you for the thought-provoking comment!
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The article that all of your comments have been under is about the person.
You have persisted in commenting about the show. The only reason this thread has continued to mention is the show is because you continue to do so. You may notice that others in the comments section have actually attempted to claim his works as real. That's problematic.
You've made the most important statement; it's not real. And thats what we have been saying. I do believe it is a serious problem when any broadcast is allowed to claim that its contents are based on real life when they are not. This is not the first time that has occurred either, sadly.
I don't want this to be an argument. I just would like one of the very few articles that has valid information about the real life person's lies to exist as a place where those with questions about the real life person can get a true answer. That's all I'm looking for.
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Being demented is not realizing when you just aren't on the same planet
It never was.
It doesn't matter if you think it OUGHT TO BE. It's not.
Dementia is a sad sad thing. Take your meds and go enjoy the show.
This forum is not for discussing the show - just the fraud that is Walter O'Brien.
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Thank you for this article
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English is so simple... but understanding is not.
A month ago it was made clear to you that this is not about me; it's about the man.
Please take your multiple personalities and go get help. Continuing to argue past the point of exhaustion will only make you tired; it won't change the fact that this is about Walter O'Brien the fraud, not the show, and not me.
Best of luck with better meds, and have a great weekend.
If anything I said confuses you, as I'm sure it does, just read the post at the very end of the page.
Cheers
Ehud
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English is so simple... but understanding is not.
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Dementia is a disease, and yelling is not the cure.
Have a blessed day :)
Ehud
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Dementia is a disease, and yelling is not the cure.
I wonder how many people applaud me?
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1. You seem to extremely jealous of Walter.
2. You are the rudest being I have ever seen in my whole life. You disregard everyone,I'll tell you, you need to do something to that character, God help you.
3. Lastly, I think you want to obtain fame from all this and u seem so obsessive about walter, please do not use the man for selfish purposes.
Perhaps you are so lonely that you feel annoyed that a man who possibly might have a disease is gaining more fame than you, just don't insult anyone else. In your loneliness turn to God, turn to Jesus I believe he will help you, he always does.
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Darling, this is the Internet.
You have not SEEN any being. You have seen some text on a screen, nothing more, nothing less.
As for "your whole life" - might I suggest you go out and live a few years? Perhaps visit or live in New York, go to a place called 4chan, read the comment section of the local newspaper website or go to a westbourogh baptist protest before you make such a comment again.
May Sweet Baby Jesus keep on blessing you.
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Darling, this is the Internet.
You have not SEEN any being. You have seen some text on a screen, nothing more, nothing less.
As for "your whole life" - might I suggest you go out and live a few years? Perhaps visit or live in New York, go to a place called 4chan, read the comment section of the local newspaper website or go to a westbourogh baptist protest before you make such a comment again.
Regarding your answer, just because I believe the Westborough Baptist Church people are extremely rude and should be stopped does NOT make it all right for everyone else, when I walk through the streets of New York, Boston, wherever and some people pushes and shoves and doesn't say excuse me does NOT make it ok for everyone else, I still say I am sorry, I know the difference between right and wrong and know to say please and thank you and TRY NOT to hurt other people's feelings and don't insult them because they have a different opinion then I do, I would love to be famous (I think?) beautiful, wealthy and all those things but I am not so jealous to carry on that you have made this place undesirable and in case YOU have not noticed what most people have, which I don't give a shit about, other than the fact that we can not discuss a show without negative input, this man has a BIG problem and should go away because that is the only thing this room is being used for, other then that, it is IDLE!!!!! NO ONE WANTS TO COME IN HERE, as for what anyone else has seen, don't be so sure, you never know.......
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Way to avoid the issue of your facts being demonstrably incorrect and rather than owning up to your mistake and saying "hey, turns out that there ARE ruder people" you jump to 'because others do it, does that make it right'.
that you have made this place undesirable
*I* have? An interesting claim. Yet the only thread I see comments from you is this one - so why don't you put your money where your mouth is and PROVE this claim you are making. My guess is you won't be able to because you lack the basic competency to do such.
I do hope you are being paid well to thread-sit and offer up such "quality" posts "defending" the "entertainment" product.
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1st you make a claim "you have made this place undesirable". I call you on your claim about me and my conduct and the above is your response?
Why don't you just admit you were wrong with your claim?
By the way, do you know if Scorpion is on tonight?
If this is the way the Internet works best in your world - troll a message board for 6+ months to ask when a television show is going to be on - perhaps you should go take an "internet class" at the local county extension.
Perhaps some place like http://www.tvguide.com/listings/ ?
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This is Mike. I run this site. I'm a bit confused about your ongoing comments here accusing other people of somehow being rude to you or treating you unfairly. As it should be clear, this blog post is about the individual Walter O'Brien. It has little to do with the TV show, other than the fact that the show is supposedly -- if totally falsely -- billed as being based on O'Brien's life.
It seems clear that you like the show. No one here cares.
The whole issue was about O'Brien's clearly false statements of fact and our discussion of that. You seemed very focused on this TV show -- which no one else here cares about -- and some of the regular readers on the site called you out on your confusion.
Since then this has just been a merry-go-round of ridiculousness.
So can we just end this. You can enjoy your TV show. No one's trying to take that away. But just admit that it's pure fiction and that O'Brien is a liar who got the TV show on the air using false pretenses. And please, stop insulting the people around here who tried to respond to you sensibly only to have you mock them.
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My comments were not about treating ME as RUDE or unfairly, I don't care about Walter O'Brien, I started out wanting to learn more about him, after seeing the 1st or 2nd show I was fascinated, not by him by something I had seen. I admit, I am no genius, that does not make me a stupid person, there are many other things I do excel at, just not these things. I was shocked at the way I was spoken to, looking into the matter, I was shocked at the way MOST people were spoken to. Now maybe that is how you are looking for the room to be run, go back, people have been called all kinds of names and a lot of times I would stay away but then feel so badly for someone to be treated like that, how do you know who you are speaking to, a 90 year old person. I remember my question, it was regarding being fed oxygen through a tube, a legitimate question wouldn't you think? Yes, I had seen it on the tv show, I was curious about it, how could you not breath under water, hold your breath. Was this, in fact, possible, I know I couldn't do it. I didn't deserve the treatment I received and neither did many people for any question they asked, I found it appalling. It is your site to do with as you please but it seemed to me not many people wanted to come in here and be spoken to by this man who I guess is a genius. No one deserves to be disrespected in that way or spoken down to like that. Maybe now it will get better. Thanks.
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Honestly, no. Extensive research us not done. Otherwise claiming the story is based on real events would not have gotten past first steps of research.
That said... Reddit has multiple people discussing this particuoar episode and though they don't even bother asking if the method of blood cycling would work, I can help with this point...
If one receives merely a single bubble of air into their veins they die. It happens often enough. This this episode is not believable.
However, though you do have questions about the show and I am happy to refute items that are obviously falsified, please do keep in mind that the article above is about the man, not the show.
You did prove my point that folks come here after seeing the show, so I do appreciate that. If you wanted to know about the man the show is supposed to be based upon, please do read the article above.
It is definitely one thing to watch the show for what it is, a TV show. No argument there. To add the layer of "truth" is sort of like saying all those shows on TruTV aren't setups. Know the show is not reality and we can all high five over it.
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Please know we have it all in writing. Holier than thou won't work here. Reading the responses in thread, it was made clear prior to your first comment that this thread was not.about the show, yet you asked your question anyway. You received a very appropriate response. You refused to leave it at that. You persisted for no apparent reason.
Although it has been mentioned in so many ways, and I even begged for it to stop, continued mentions of a television show continue.
And worst of all, I find it highly quesionable the age you claim, and find it beyond bizarre that one would mebtion it as an excuse for trolling.
One would think a plea from the site owner would suffice...
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Randi's disconnected state
Truly delusional people are fascinating... for a few minutes at best. Randi's 15 minutes were up in 2015.
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And yet you asked if any of us could find out for you if the TV show would be on.
So you are either a troll or ignorant of things like "search engines" and sites like TV Guide. Given you claim you 'know how to use the internet' you must be a troll.
and I don't even know who you are........
Troll - you accused me personally of 'driving people away' due to my conduct. Now your position is one of ignorance of my posting history - so which is it.....you know me well enough to make a claim about my conduct OR you don't know squat?
I don't even bother coming in here myself any longer
Do you think anyone reading this at this point is STUPID?
Nov 30th, 2015 @ 2:56pm Nov 30th, 2015 @ 12:50pm Nov 29th, 2015 @ 2:00pm are your post dates. The post previous was Oct 25th, 2015 @ 1:06pm and the post that set you off was 3 weeks later - Nov 18th, 2015 @ 11:15am
Troll, for "not bothering" coming to this site - you sure seem invested in this ONE topic.
but when I see someone defending rude behavior,
Troll, you are the one with the rude behaviour.
you also might be one of those people that just likes to antagonize people also.
Troll, I call out bullshit. Seems you don't like being held accountable and don't like being called on your behaviour.
If you miss the show, it is a good one
I see no reason to waste my time with the products of the idiot box. As the 2 links point out TV isn't all its cracked up to be.
And given your demonstrated judgement via your postings the blank wall staring sounds like the safer choice than listening to a troll.
"television must be judged as a maladaptive technology" (727) because, among several measured reasons, it "inhibits consciousness and purposeful behaviour." In other areas of study they conclude that TV is maladaptive because it stimlates only recognition and squelches conscious recall; that TV involves "more forgetting than remembering" of TV content; that "understanding" of contents is minimalized
"Psychophysiologist Thomas Mulholland found that after just 30 seconds of watching television the brain begins to produce alpha waves, which indicates torpid (almost comatose) [slow] rates of activity. Alpha brain waves are associated with unfocused, overly receptive states of consciousness. A high frequency alpha waves [sic] does not occur normally when the eyes are open. In fact, Mulholland’s research implies that watching television is neurologically analogous to staring at a blank wall.
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Reallllllllly
But first off I would like to say I am shocked no one has bought this point up and I think it IS significant
I am WAY more concerned about the hidden brain washing techniques that they are using here.
I have only watched the first episode and I am not impressed with the reference to how "Fuel tanks (from planes) Ignite on impact, you wont find a body part" (sound familiar)this is the official story the 9-11 inquiry told us about what happened on 9-11 although did not burn the passport from the so called terrorist later turning up alive and getting an official apology from the government).There are more references to 9-11 bullshit in there to!! just re watch and drink some strong coffee keeping eyes pealed and ears open and you to will see other 9-11 brainwashing shit. watch it again and tell me I'm wrong.
So to cut long story short THIS IS A TOOL PROGRAM put together to keep un educated sheeple in the dark so they don't think Logically or even use there god given brains.
ITS ENTERTAINMENT that is all it will ever account to IMO.
I did laugh though with the RJ45 cable from the plane into the laptop thinking to myself "I do hope they are not using Microsoft windows"!
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Ah, the memories
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O'Brien claims that when he was thirteen years old (c. 1988), he hacked into NASA under the pseudonym "Scorpion".[9] IrishCentral and Irish Daily Mail said the incident was unconfirmed.[8][10] In an interview with Silicon Republic, an Irish technology news website, O'Brien claimed that the NSA, through Interpol, appeared at his home following the hack.[11] O'Brien said the NSA was providing security for NASA at the time. He told the agents he would help show them vulnerabilities in their network in exchange for not getting into trouble.[3] According to O'Brien, he had an extradition document ready in his backpack, but he couldn't provide more details on the deal that was made due to non-disclosure agreements.[5] French tabloid Telestar said there is no trace of the NASA hack.[9] Techdirt pointed out that the United States Department of Homeland Security, cited by Gabel as having surrounded O'Brien's home, did not exist at the time of the alleged hack.[4]
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Feel free to visit the site for references.
At this point, I wouldn't trust him to tell me he's got brown shoes.
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Back to the discussion...
Great! This discussion thread (not a "room") can continue to be a discussion about the article about Walter O'Brien the fraud, not about you, or that show.
Holiday wishes to you and your other personalities.
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Besides, they know what the article's about, hon. You haven't even made it *that* far.
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Read the article. Consider it. Is the writer of said article referring to a TV show or a real, live human being?
And yes, when we are lied to, even if it was by a TV show which promises to show events based on reality, it should be called out. We were lied to by Mr. O'Brien when he told his tales of being brought to the US by the NSA, or was it the FBI? He doesn't know because it never happened.
The real human being said all of these things and was given a television show for it. The real Mike Masnick exposes his lies and has to deal with people who don't know the difference between a TV show and reality.
It really does bring to mind the question, what is the average IQ of a Scorpion watcher?
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Trolls
The people still talking about the TV show are clearly trolling. Likely they are either one of the words above (you did look up the definition, right?) or they are paid to be one of the words above. Either way they are trolls.
Sean, you have the patience of a saint... or Job. The former go to Heaven. The latter got lots of punishment.
Best wishes for being the former!
Ehud
* These are valid English words. Feel free to look them up. A quick google search provides valid contextual definitions. Don't be a moron idiot retarded person and do look them up.
** Note: this is a thread. It's not a "room". AOL's free 3.5" floppies are long gone and we don't walk in and say "HELLO ROOM" any more. It's a discussion led by comments about an article. I know this is confusing... to those who fit under point 1 above.
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You think u are better
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The guy who is on top of my comment
Your word dasnt hold me back for I think walter isnt lying
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Re: The guy who is on top of my comment
Welcome South African Walter. This topic is not about you. (Nor your show, should there be an LDC-Scorpion airing somewhere.)
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See, now I understand. I though you meant Santa Anita 16th race, and that it was an even money bet. Very confusing.
Aside from that, your logic is soind. I can't imagine how anyone could out think you. Perhaps you're the genius. Perhaps Walter is your father? I'd say it's 50/50. So it must be true.
p.s., if you hear what sounds like two pogo sticks coming up behind you, do NOT hide in the bathroom.
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Prescient much? ;-)
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Ehud gavron
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1. Movie star who killed her father
2. Olympic runner who killed his gilfriend
3. Nelson Mandella
None of them are as idiotic as this poor poser
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Ps you came out of it
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Back to the topic...
As much fun as it is to point out that our third-world friend makes no sense, that is not the point of this discussion thread.
Sorry, "South African" Troll Boy, you'll have to go get your jollies somewhere else.
Ehud
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Walter O'brien
Yet the show has been an inspiration to people with hope and a future.
Mike Masnick and other haters make an achievement (a credible one) before you come blabbing and running your lips about someone else
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Actually THIS IS Mike Masnick's website. He didn't COME blabbing and running his lips. YOU came to HIS website blabbing and running your lips.*
Ehud
* In modern English the words you meant to use were blabbering and running your mouth off. Of course to expect literacy from a hater that tells a website owner off while drowing in invisible irony is an exercise in futility.
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Scorpian
I don't think they have ever claimed this show to be a documentary, or that these episodes are re-enactments of actually happens...
I would hate to see your reviews of Star Trek, or the Movies of the Matrix trilogy....
Sometimes WE ALL HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT TV SHOWS ARE ONLY A VEHICLE OF ENTERTAINMENT. Get over yourself and your self righteousness, sit back for a moment and enjoy what a lot of TV shows are "ENTERTAINMENT".
And guess what if you don't like the entertainment value of that TV shoe TURN THE STATION-don't you have a remote???
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I have an IQ less than Walter O'brien
A single reference to the show would be enough and the reddit article should at least have more mentions in the first two paragraphs. The first two paragraphs primarily talk about the tv show.
Walter O'brien is an unfashionable or socially inept person. Otherwise know as a geek.
Love the show. The comment is not about Walter O'Brien it's about the article about Walter O'Brien.
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That said, the article is providing what some would call background. You see, one of the shoe's conceits is that it is based on a real story. This helps lead you to the next step, which is, Is the show based on what he says or is it a complete falsification of his own words? Which leads to the next step, investigating Walter O'Briens actual, real, human statements.
That is what this article addresses. It does not attempt to investigate the show in any way. It investigates the human being.
If you like the show, no one here cares. Just keep on its not real.
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TV requires story telling
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The article is not about the show
The show has never been written by Walter. It is produced by Nick Santora. Based on inaccurate events.
If you seem to agree that it's not true, you ought to have concerns that they are allowed to claim it is based on actual events. It surely is not. Because Walter has been lying about reality. Please see mutiple posts from people with even passing knowledge of networking and computers for details.
As relevant as your response, may I say I like Game of Thrones.
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On all other points you're awarded zero points, and we're all stupider for having read your idiot post... and you are an idiot. Bless your soul you delusional idiotic moron. Bless it to death. AN untimely and painful one.
Credit: Billy Madison.
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I watched the show.
1. no-knock raids occur usually in the early hours of the morning, and law enforcement prefers pre-dawn. The raid in the opening of S01E01 occurs mid-morning.
2. no-knock raids do not come by helicopter -- that's too noisy. Instead they come by vehicle to the last mile and on foot to the premise. In this pilot episode they bring in 3 (virtual) Huey (Bell UH-01) helicopters flying in a (virtual) close flight formation. The amount of noise and earth-shaking that would bring would be heard a mile away.
3. the armed men ignore the people outside (real LEOs would have immediately put them on the ground and in zip ties so they are not a factor), enter the house and immediately know to go to the upper floor. (real LEOs would have cleared the lower floor first before proceeding upstairs let alone not knowing to need to go upstairs.)
4. they go directly to the room with "the kid" and say "it's just a kid" into the radio. But there was no way to know which room or the house layout just like there was no way to know upper floor but if you're going to imagine "well they just knew because it's a TV show" then they might as well have known it's a kid.
Here's kinda a big deal - in that split instant they see the kid they magically all know that the kid is the person they are seeking and everyone else is immediately and without haste totally free to go, is not an accomplice, did not help the kid, and is free free free.
Wow.
5. they had orders to arrest him, which they do, but not before allowing him to present them with some document (we assume he wrote) which -- the kid being below the age of majority -- has zero legal standing. Also either law enforcement or soldiers in the process of executing a search and seizure and arrest don't have the authority to enter into an agreement. Those are done by the prosecutors on behalf of the agency/state agency that they represent.
6. go outside with the kid in cuffs... but the cuffs are in front. Handcuffs are not put in front of anyone by real LEOs.
7. dad is outside with his arms around the two women next to him. In real life they'd still be zip-tied on the ground, or in the best possible case they'd be in a car ready to be taken for questioning.
8. then the Range Rovers pull up. Range Rovers are cool, but they're not used to go to random Irish country homes right after three Hueys went in. More likely a more conventional (lower cost per mile) vehicle would be used. A well-dressed guy gets out and calls the kid "son" and asks his name. Wait, let me get this right, you knew the house, floor, bedroom, and you didn't know the occupants' kid's name?
9. Snap to the present world where our hero is breaking up with a girl. They've been dating for three months and she's complained he's not in touch with her feelings. She's attractive and articulate and intelligent even in accepting the breakup. There is no way she would have even gone on one date with him, and in the outside chance she would have, she would have never ever gone on a second date.
10. he's in the diner (breaking up with the girl, whom he called and invited to meet him there so he could break up with her) to do a job. the job is to fix the wireless network. he does this using a laptop that is not running Windows, MacOS, or Linux. Then, when he's done, he does not shut it down - he just closes it. Any real computer genius would have at least pressed the power button to suspend it.
11. there's a cute waitress (right?) whose kid is at the counter OCD-fidgeting with salt-shakers and the like. Our hero goes over and plays Go with the kid using the pepper and salt shakers. Then he tells the mother the kid needs help, tells the old-timer the "wireless is fixed" and "not to yell at the kid" and takes off. The old man had not yelled at the kid.
12. he leaves driving a Datsun 240Z, a car not manufactured since 1978 (and in fact Datsun became Nissan 21 years ago) but the steering wheel, flat-bucket seats, and interior are from an American manufacturer. He wears his watch on the right, and he talks to himself. I guess that means he's not just a guy with an impossibly old car redone with the wrong interior but he can't tell right from left. for those of you in the biz, yes the interior car set doesn't match the exterior shots.
13. he enters a warehouse where a girl connects a tap to the power grid (to steal power) and things light up one by one. in real life everything powers up at once, or things need turning on.
that's the first five minutes of the first episode of the first season of the show that so many people here have risen up to defend - even though the article isn't about the show.
I had to watch the show to see just how fantastic this show was that people would say "Well we don't care if you don't think this guy is a genius, but the show's really good." I made it through five minutes. Obviously people smarter than I made it through many and think this idiot's a genius and this show is a genius and likely they think that Wrestlemania is real and that Jon Snow really is alive.
If you're ever thinking "Wait, techdirt did a story on this guy who is not a genius but lots of people say don't worry about that because the show is really good" then feel free to sit back and go think about something else. The show is really not good. Preempt for those who say "well you should have given it more than five minutes" - if it smells rank and has lumpy blue fuzz on it you don't eat more of it to see if you get sick.
Chase Huntingdon
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it as not real so um is tv um real or i suppose um we should just um take your word on un everything ,you fucking jerk
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Walter is a fraud
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Inability to read English strikes again
It's not a fucking TV show. This discussion is about the purported hero (not the TV show) :)
I hope that explains it to you. You like to swear but can't understand simple English so may I suggest you go work for a Verizon call center in a third world country? Practice saying "I am trying to help you now." Feels good, doesn't it?
Best regards,
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Helicopter in March 2017 show
Let. Col. Craig, USAF
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If you were a real Lieutenant Colonel ("Lt. Col") you'd have known this is a discussion about Walter O'Brien being a fraud, and not the TV show. Nothing on the TV show is discussed in this thread. Feel free to read the first post or the last post or anything in between. They are in English and pretty clear.
Best of luck making full-bird in your video game.
Ehud
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ME [Randi disconnected mental state]
Reality isn't the show either.
Take the meds.
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ME
From what I read Randi is suffering from some disconnection from reality, unable to perceive the world the way it is, and feeling a narcissistic compulsion to attempt to "educate" everyone else as to the altered state.
Truly delusional people are fascinating... for a few minutes at best. Randi's 15 minutes were up in 2015.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, bored are we????????????????????????
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Crazy Randi
Anyhoo, it's not about you. I just didn't want the newbie falling for the idea that you might be lucid or that you could be convinced this isn't about the show. Unfortunately you can't, and it isn't, but that's not any reason to pollute the thread... as you do.
So as we non-censorious people say "fight speech with more speech." If you insist on blathering on about the show (not the topic here - take it elsewhere) I'll be happy to follow up with your credentials -- ensuring everyone knows you're a loon.
Now take your "BIGGGG[yawn]" problem and go discuss it as much as you want -- anywhere else.
Best regards, and remember - read the last word. It's not about me. And it's not about the show. And it's not about your lack of mental health.
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Crazy Randi (THAT'S ME)
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Crazy Randi (THAT'S HER!)
But yes, do leave. It's your right. Everyone else will breathe easier without your "presence".
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By Your Command
I will not do anything you've commanded me to do. Your commands are rejected as coming from someone unworthy to be obeyed.
You've said you're "leaving the room[sic]" so many times it makes everyone's heads spin. I invite you to live up to your words, instead of trying to silence mine.
Toodles.
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The Last Word
“Reading the article helps!
The article at the top of this page is insightful in its research, fascinating in its composition, and eloquently constructed. You who have come to here, the bottom comment, to see what people are still talking about should jump back up there and read it.Walter O'Brien is a fraud. You can't help but get that understanding from reading the article.
The article is not about the show. Like the show, hate the show, it's still not about the show.
There are many many forums to discuss the show. This is not one. Coming here to discuss the show is like overhearing someone saying "the parm is cheesy" and walking right to their dinner table, plopping your fat ass down, and saying "I love to play parcheesi!" and no matter how much they try and be polite and explain that no, we're just eating really cheesy parm you insist on staying, talking about parcheesi, and calling them rude for not listening to you.
Etiquette is important, and being tone-deaf to the dozens of people who have said "this is not about the show" reflects well on this forum that censors noone and on those who show courtesy and civility in the face of blatant disregard for all manners.
I close by adding one more thing. The article at the top (you *did* read it, right?) is about Walter O'Brien being a fraud. It is now about who YOU are or how old you are nor is it about me.
You shall not pass -- Gandalf